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Old 01-27-2013 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
In the 1960s UAL recruited pilots in high schools. You need a HS Diploma, and a PPL. UAL hired you, paid you, paid for your room and board, and paid for your comm/inst/mel...and then put you in a UAL plane.


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Now China recruits pilots in high schools. You need a HS Diploma, and no PPL. Chinese airline/operator hired you, paid you, paid for your room and board, and paid for your pvt/comm/inst/mel...and then put you in a 777/Lear60.
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Old 01-31-2013 | 01:51 PM
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Got hired on the shuttle side started in the January class and we have 21 FO new hires about 7 of us are former comair/pinnacle/ furloughed people including myself. Around the training house in IND it's Crazy busy and most classes have 12 to 15 people it seems on all certificate classes. So far RAH doesn't seem to a pilot hiring problem yet. I'd estimate about 60 to 70 pilots hired in January alone.... As far as basing goes who knows there is a lot of movement in all bases right now. I'd say if your looking for your first 121 gig and don't want reserve get on now!!!...
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Old 01-31-2013 | 02:14 PM
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When the words "About average" and "11%" growth disappear from the Bureau of Labor and Statistics report for the next 7 years, I'll start lending the hoots and hollers about serviceable pilot shortages some credence.

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Old 01-31-2013 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperConductor
When the words "About average" and "11%" growth disappear from the Bureau of Labor and Statistics report for the next 7 years, I'll start lending the hoots and hollers about serviceable pilot shortages some credence.

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11% growth is a straight number of jobs. It doesn't factor that ~20% of the pilots in the profession now will retire in 7 years + 11% growth.
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Old 01-31-2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL
11% growth is a straight number of jobs. It doesn't factor that ~20% of the pilots in the profession now will retire in 7 years + 11% growth.
Yup. Those added jobs in the next ten years. 10,000 or 4,000 (depending on which segment) are in addition to the 20,000 retirements.
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Old 01-31-2013 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Yup. Those added jobs in the next ten years. 10,000 or 4,000 (depending on which segment) are in addition to the 20,000 retirements.
Are we pilots starting to feel rather bullish?
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Old 02-01-2013 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by yimke
3 airplanes per month, with about 6-8 pilots per plane. So 18-24 pilots per month.

Current manning per a/c -

Republic - 9.7
SkyWest - 10.3
Eagle - 12.0
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Old 02-01-2013 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Current manning per a/c -

Republic - 9.7
SkyWest - 10.3
Eagle - 12.0
Help a newbie understand this. Why such a variance with the figures? Eagle has higher number. Does this mean Eagle airplanes fly longer days? Or pilots work less hours so they need more pilots per plane? Or?
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Old 02-01-2013 | 06:51 AM
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That will change once the Flight Time Duty Regs kick in.
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Old 02-01-2013 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SongMan
Help a newbie understand this. Why such a variance with the figures? Eagle has higher number. Does this mean Eagle airplanes fly longer days? Or pilots work less hours so they need more pilots per plane? Or?
Line bidding, which I think eagle has, vs GARBAGE pref bid requires more staffing. With trip touching and good vacation language, even more staffing would be required. This is a major factor in pilots per plane.
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