Will Republic Be Able To Get 500+ ??
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Serious question. If there is such a small pool of candidates right now. Why would eagle or another airline decline people of getting hired? I really don't think that there is a small pool.
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The candidates graduate from ATP and instruct with them until reaching the 1500 hours at which time they "flow thru" to Republic. At least that's my vague understanding of what I read.
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Not to mention these airlines have to have standards. They would waste tons of cash trying to train people who can't make it through training.
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I think the number is much higher than 500, but it is probably spread out over 18 to 24 months. Their attrition is picking up with guys going to Spirit, Airways, Emirates, etc. Any Tier III FO that can leave is leaving, as well as most of the bottom 400 or so Captains. The FO's over there have had a belly full of BB, their union, and the top 300 - 500 lifer Captains. I don't think there is a single FO on their Negotiation Committee and they are fed up with the entire lot. With or without PIC time, if they can get out they will.
When the real hiring at the majors, Fedex, UPS, etc. picks up in summer or early fall that hew hire number will grow to 750 for this year and probably an equal number or greater next year. Don't forget they are not yet completely staffed for the Q's. Also, remember they need new hire FO's in place to begin the upgrade process for the Tier III guys.
In 2007 they hired nearly a 1,000. They can do it from a process standpoint. From a recruitment standpoint, that is a whole different consideration.
If they do not get this contract behind them, there is going to be a lot of really nasty smelling stuff coming the fan when planes are sitting waiting on pilots. Is there a pilot shortage? Not yet, because of the Pinnacle and Comair guys. But there will be at RAH within a year and potentially by fall.
My advice to anyone even thinking about going to RAH is get in NOW! Ask any of the guys who got hired from Sept 07 to March 08 over there how getting hired on the back end of a hiring wave at RAH works out.
When the real hiring at the majors, Fedex, UPS, etc. picks up in summer or early fall that hew hire number will grow to 750 for this year and probably an equal number or greater next year. Don't forget they are not yet completely staffed for the Q's. Also, remember they need new hire FO's in place to begin the upgrade process for the Tier III guys.
In 2007 they hired nearly a 1,000. They can do it from a process standpoint. From a recruitment standpoint, that is a whole different consideration.
If they do not get this contract behind them, there is going to be a lot of really nasty smelling stuff coming the fan when planes are sitting waiting on pilots. Is there a pilot shortage? Not yet, because of the Pinnacle and Comair guys. But there will be at RAH within a year and potentially by fall.
My advice to anyone even thinking about going to RAH is get in NOW! Ask any of the guys who got hired from Sept 07 to March 08 over there how getting hired on the back end of a hiring wave at RAH works out.
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3 airplanes per month, with about 6-8 pilots per plane. So 18-24 pilots per month. Not bad. However if retirements and attrition pick up then it is stretching your training department. Which consists of mostly senior pilots, that may be looking to bail to the majors. So Republic will need to hire replacement instructors, and expand their current department to staff their new hires.
Republic will be fine, until the number of CFI's stuck behind "The Curve" of 1500 hours depletes. For every CFI that is stuck behind the growing curve to get to 1500 hours, that is another commercial student that is slowly building hours, or waiting for a call on a gig. There is no rough deadline by the FAA with the HR5900 reduction, and majors picking up on retirements. I will estimate that around September next year is going to be rough on Republic, unless they approve a new contract. Which is unlikely, the way management is acting.
I don't see why people give their life to work for terrible management and work rules. When every airline is on the same hiring hour requirements, we shall see who will actually still stand.
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Republic will be fine, until the number of CFI's stuck behind "The Curve" of 1500 hours depletes. For every CFI that is stuck behind the growing curve to get to 1500 hours, that is another commercial student that is slowly building hours, or waiting for a call on a gig. There is no rough deadline by the FAA with the HR5900 reduction, and majors picking up on retirements. I will estimate that around September next year is going to be rough on Republic, unless they approve a new contract. Which is unlikely, the way management is acting.
I don't see why people give their life to work for terrible management and work rules. When every airline is on the same hiring hour requirements, we shall see who will actually still stand.
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