ORD Republic X-wind Landing
11-10-2014 | 07:46 AM
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From: Downwind, headed straight for the rocks, shanghaied aboard the ship of fools.
11-10-2014 | 07:52 AM
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Ok. I concede that. But no effort was made to even limit the crab angle to a max of 5deg. That's made clear in the vid. Listen, we all have bad days. But no matter your flying background, a crosswind landing is a crosswind landing. Sure, there may be slight handling differences as you pointed out. But sideloading the gear or sliding off the runway had it been wet is not an option. Let's not make excuses but instead make more of an effort to do what we are paid to do. Fly the plane.
Second, just what IS the procedure for landing in stiff crosswinds in THAT airplane? The airplane I fly was designed for a pretty significant side loading for just that reason.
I, for one, will not pass judgement on that flight crew. I was not there. I don't know the procedure for that airplane. Nor do I know the exact conditions they were facing.
Bottom line, IN MY OPINION, is that this is another example of the internet Monday Morning Quarterbacks making something more out of something that they don't necessarily understand.
11-10-2014 | 07:59 AM
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I, for one, will not pass judgement on that flight crew. I was not there. I don't know the procedure for that airplane. Nor do I know the exact conditions they were facing.
Bottom line, IN MY OPINION, is that this is another example of the internet Monday Morning Quarterbacks making something more out of something that they don't necessarily understand.
Hut hut hike.
11-10-2014 | 08:14 AM
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11-10-2014 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 121isnofun
Listen, we all have bad days.
I too was expecting to see a rudder input and the nose come left, but it didn't happen...meh, I'd guess everybody in this thread has landed their aircraft in a side load at some point - just didn't have a camera crew recording the short final and touchdown to post on the Nightly News, CNN and the interwebs.
And yeah folks, some airplanes allow landing out of a crab.
11-10-2014 | 08:26 AM
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Looks like they were going for the same technique seen here... From the boeing flight test team, who probably know how to land airplanes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2LtHrn9Jw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2LtHrn9Jw
11-10-2014 | 08:27 AM
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A couple of things here. First, long range video's like that tend to distort things. Was he really in that much of a crab, or did the distance from which the video was shot make it LOOK like it? Personally, I don't know.
Second, just what IS the procedure for landing in stiff crosswinds in THAT airplane? The airplane I fly was designed for a pretty significant side loading for just that reason.
I, for one, will not pass judgement on that flight crew. I was not there. I don't know the procedure for that airplane. Nor do I know the exact conditions they were facing.
Bottom line, IN MY OPINION, is that this is another example of the internet Monday Morning Quarterbacks making something more out of something that they don't necessarily understand.
Second, just what IS the procedure for landing in stiff crosswinds in THAT airplane? The airplane I fly was designed for a pretty significant side loading for just that reason.
I, for one, will not pass judgement on that flight crew. I was not there. I don't know the procedure for that airplane. Nor do I know the exact conditions they were facing.
Bottom line, IN MY OPINION, is that this is another example of the internet Monday Morning Quarterbacks making something more out of something that they don't necessarily understand.
Max demonstrated on the type is 38kts for a dry runway, Republic's limitation is 28kts with an allowance for gusts above that.
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