ORD Republic X-wind Landing
11-10-2014, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TBucket
Looks like they were going for the same technique seen here... From the boeing flight test team, who probably know how to land airplanes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2LtHrn9Jw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2LtHrn9Jw
Maybe they were testing side load limits as opposed to demonstrating good crosswind technique.
I don't know though...
As the saying goes:
"There are 3 secrets to a perfect landing....
but no pilot knows what they actually are."
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11-10-2014, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TBucket
Looks like they were going for the same technique seen here... From the boeing flight test team, who probably know how to land airplanes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2LtHrn9Jw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2LtHrn9Jw
Further, watch Airbus test pilots land in OSH w/ a crosswind and get raked over the coals.
A380 Hard Landing at Oshkosh - YouTube
Stop making excuses for poor airmanship.
11-10-2014, 09:03 AM
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Most transport airliners are certified to land in a full crab at max demo crosswind.
Not that it's optimum, though. I watched that video and kept thinking "ok he's going to kick it out now... maybe now? ...nevermind."
It's impressive that they stayed on the centerline as well as they did with that amount of sideloading.
Not that it's optimum, though. I watched that video and kept thinking "ok he's going to kick it out now... maybe now? ...nevermind."
It's impressive that they stayed on the centerline as well as they did with that amount of sideloading.
11-10-2014, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 121isnofun
That was a flight test crew demonstrating that improper crosswind technique won't destroy the aircaft... Don't confuse that video with a "How to" video on landing in a crosswind.
Further, watch Airbus test pilots land in OSH w/ a crosswind and get raked over the coals.
A380 Hard Landing at Oshkosh - YouTube
Stop making excuses for poor airmanship.
Further, watch Airbus test pilots land in OSH w/ a crosswind and get raked over the coals.
A380 Hard Landing at Oshkosh - YouTube
Stop making excuses for poor airmanship.
11-10-2014, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
Fine job? Do you think his flight instructor said that when he landed his 172 like that?
That landing was complete ****. It's one thing to use correct technique and plant it on, but it's another to just have a lack of flying skills.
That landing was complete ****. It's one thing to use correct technique and plant it on, but it's another to just have a lack of flying skills.
What he should have done was divert like the hundreds of other flights that day.
Clear enough for ya now?
(What's the technique over there at Mesa?)
11-10-2014, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot
They're ribbing them for slamming hard. Nothing to do with their (proper) crabbed technique.
I posted the vid simply to say landings like that must be the exception and not the rule. And while no doubt the aircraft are designed to withstand as much, limitations are NOT goals. Just because the aircraft can (land in a crab) doesn't mean you should.
11-10-2014, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I watched that video and kept thinking "ok he's going to kick it out now... maybe now? ...nevermind."
It's impressive that they stayed on the centerline as well as they did with that amount of sideloading.
It's impressive that they stayed on the centerline as well as they did with that amount of sideloading.
Originally Posted by JustAMushroom
Max demo is not a limit.
For folks not familiar with Republic's SOP, we are hard limited to 28kts crosswind, which is a less than the max demonstrated, which I mention for people not familiar with the type.
As an additional datapoint, S5 (Shuttle America) has no limitation. Their SOP actually just lists the max demonstrated for various conditions. Which is NOT how the YX manual reads, even though we are the same company.
11-10-2014, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by thump
Agreed!
Duh! I should hope anyone here would understand what max demonstrated means.
Duh! I should hope anyone here would understand what max demonstrated means.
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