Republic after the contract
#401
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Unless you live on the east coast and have no desire to ever go west of the Mississippi, then avoid RAH.
Sure first yr pay is higher but it plateau's. They made first yr so high to get butts in the door. Rigs match SKW and don't exceed. Outstation basing will make your life miserable unless you live there.
RAH is the company where after my base closed told me to drive 4 hrs in a blizzard across the state in order to commute to ORD when all my flights cancelled. Then when I refused and commuter clause'd my trip told me I should sell my house and move my family to base. When I refused that they told me I should rent and not own a house.
If I had to do it all over with the regionals, I'd go with SKW. Better variety in trips, similar CBA, better management, better bases. In 5 yrs it won't matter where you're at since the regionals will be a shell of their former selves and most everyone on this board will be at a major.
Sure first yr pay is higher but it plateau's. They made first yr so high to get butts in the door. Rigs match SKW and don't exceed. Outstation basing will make your life miserable unless you live there.
RAH is the company where after my base closed told me to drive 4 hrs in a blizzard across the state in order to commute to ORD when all my flights cancelled. Then when I refused and commuter clause'd my trip told me I should sell my house and move my family to base. When I refused that they told me I should rent and not own a house.
If I had to do it all over with the regionals, I'd go with SKW. Better variety in trips, similar CBA, better management, better bases. In 5 yrs it won't matter where you're at since the regionals will be a shell of their former selves and most everyone on this board will be at a major.
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Anybody want to provide specifics on why this is the case?
I'm new to the regional game in the US and understand that Republic has had its issues in the past, but when you look at the comparisons on AeroCrew etc. Republic generally has better contractual terms.
I'm surprised that some airlines only provide double occupancy, this is generally against the labor code in Canada so I'm not used to seeing this. Not that I think someone should base their career decision on this - just really surprised me!
I'm new to the regional game in the US and understand that Republic has had its issues in the past, but when you look at the comparisons on AeroCrew etc. Republic generally has better contractual terms.
I'm surprised that some airlines only provide double occupancy, this is generally against the labor code in Canada so I'm not used to seeing this. Not that I think someone should base their career decision on this - just really surprised me!
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Such posts are perpetuated by the same ignoramuses who say Endeavor is nothing more than Pinnacle-Colgan-Mesaba in a different color dress, or that Silver is just Gulfstream in disguise. The airline industry is very fluid. I've worked in it since the 80's. I don't remember a time when it was not turbulent. The players come and go. AAG was once the darling of the industry. United was a gem. Just look at both of them now struggling to stay alive. The industry laughed at PeoplExpress. Meanwhile, all the airlines are now making billions on a similar business model.
My point is, when an airline has a significant management change, signs a new labor contract, or restructures its finances, it is not necessarily the "same" airline.
My point is, when an airline has a significant management change, signs a new labor contract, or restructures its finances, it is not necessarily the "same" airline.
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From: C172 Captain
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kathryncreedy/2016/01/27/regional-airlines-more-communities-threatened-as-partners-shift-flying-to-mainline/#3a837c75228b
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SkyWest is reducing its fleet by 50% over the next 3 years. How is that "plenty of growth"? Sounds like the opposite to me.
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SkyWest is reducing its fleet by 50% over the next 3 years. How is that "plenty of growth"? Sounds like the opposite to me.
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She sees the industry consolidating with SkyWest an obvious winner. Ominously, however, the fate of Republic Airways, the only other publicly held regional airline, remains to be seen as reported in this Forbes story.
The 50% is SkyWest Inc that includes ASA and XJet. 50 seaters are going away, and better contracts are being signed for 70 seats. SW is stockpiling pilots and waiting to grab flying from those airlines that can't staff it.
Trust me, I don't agree with the way a lot of things are done here. But BB has shown his incompetence with managing Republic and taking the stock from around $15 per share to around $2 over the last year. If it were me just starting out, I wouldn't ignore the way management at Republic has treated their pilot group for the past 10 years and just focus on what it has been like over the past couple months. But that is just my opinion.
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so you're for shaft ejt/asa to benefit skw pilots. 50 percent is 50 percent no matter where it comes from. 50 percent reduction from wherever it comes is still 50 percent less profits. skw can stock pile pilots all it wants, all that means is that they are expecting to lose pilots in hoards. skw balance sheet wont support indefinite paying pilots to be just stock piled.
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so you're for shaft ejt/asa to benefit skw pilots. 50 percent is 50 percent no matter where it comes from. 50 percent reduction from wherever it comes is still 50 percent less profits. skw can stock pile pilots all it wants, all that means is that they are expecting to lose pilots in hoards. skw balance sheet wont support indefinite paying pilots to be just stock piled.
#409
Doesn't matter which of their 3 airlines is profitable or not, overall, it seems that things are not that hunky dory since they have to cut down up to 50% of their fleet and sacrifice/lay off pilots who go along with it, whatever certificate is on the hat, in order to make profit. Doesn't matter if it's SKW, ASA or Xjets, it's all the same group. Killing my sick cow and keeping my 2 healthy ones, doest make me a good farmer, I somehow didn't manage to keep the 3 of them healthy. Just delaying the infection to the other 2. Not a very positive outlook.
#410
unless we go through another major catastrophic financial crisis resulting in drastic reduction in business and leisure travel and the closures of airlines and airports.
But, since it's been predicted for the past 10 years... it will happen one day
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