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Old 01-11-2020, 06:54 PM
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Obviously I know that very well. But the large majority are Shia muslims, with minority Sunni, Christian, Jew, Zorastrian, etc. Plus some non-persian ethnic groups including Arabs and Kurds.

But their persian-ness sure doesn't keep them from dreaming about reviving a (Shia) caliphate. They want the US out because they (the regime) could then roll up all of their gulf neighbors and rule the ME.



Sure we would have. Their general was operating in a third country conspiring to kill Americans with no declared war, ie state-sponsored terror. That particular general has been murdering Americans in an undeclared war since at least 2008 (unfortunately somebody set a bad precedent and let him get away with it). He has even killed on US soil, but was smart enough to stick to Iranian refugee/agitators. Although he *almost* succeeded in bombing a power-lunch restaurant in DC a few years ago. He was targeting a Saudi but would have also killed, wounded, or endangered some DC elites, potentially members of congress or senior executives depending on who was having lunch that day.

I'm no Trump fan but he sure got this one right (I'm 100% confident Esper and Pompeo were behind this one).




100% wrong. Embassies are sovereign territory. It's a fine distinction but a very important one. It's what got them in trouble in the first place.





If you hate America so much why don't you apply for asylum in one of the peace-loving utopian societies you keep fawning over?
I don't hate America. Quite the opposite. Just tired of seeing repeated mistakes being made over and over in the same part of the world.
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Old 01-11-2020, 09:48 PM
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As far as attacking our embassy goes, that would be an issue internally in the country it happened in IMO. If the embassy can't be protected, it shouldn't be there.
And your opinion doesn't mean jack as far as foreign policy and embassies are concerned.

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Their general was operating in a third country conspiring to kill Americans with no declared war, ie state-sponsored terror. That particular general has been murdering Americans in an undeclared war since at least 2008 (unfortunately somebody set a bad precedent and let him get away with it). He has even killed on US soil, but was smart enough to stick to Iranian refugee/agitators. Although he *almost* succeeded in bombing a power-lunch restaurant in DC a few years ago. He was targeting a Saudi but would have also killed, wounded, or endangered some DC elites, potentially members of congress or senior executives depending on who was having lunch that day.

100% wrong. Embassies are sovereign territory. It's a fine distinction but a very important one. It's what got them in trouble in the first place.
Reread these parts again if you have questions or confusion.

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Old 01-12-2020, 07:08 AM
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Much to the disappointment of some here:

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Old 01-12-2020, 07:32 AM
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I don't hate America. Quite the opposite. Just tired of seeing repeated mistakes being made over and over in the same part of the world.
I don't disagree with some of what you're saying, just that this isn't one of those.
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Another tragedy in a combat zone created by Iran.

I guess we're even now, we got one of theirs, they got one of theirs.
There weren’t any US citizens on that. There were tons of Iranian background Canadians (and other western countries) that were MBAs, PHDs, Med students, and professors. Iran wiped out some of their brightest and greatest minds on that plane.



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Yeah I don’t know why we even defend our embassies we should just let them march through, kill a couple dozen of the staffers, drag the ambassador through the street, and maybe they will get death to America out of their systems right?
It worked for Hillary and they nearly made her President. So there's that.
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Old 01-12-2020, 10:46 AM
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Israel is always nervous but they don't shoot down friendly airliners.
But they have shot at and killed our own sailors. And what was done? Not much. They have also shot down a civilian airliner.
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Old 01-12-2020, 11:16 AM
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But they have shot at and killed our own sailors. And what was done? Not much.
That was quite a long time ago, so probably not relevant. Also they correctly identified a military ship during a hot war, they just didn't identify the nationality correctly.

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They have also shot down a civilian airliner.
Also a different era. That one was intentional and for apparently good reason. It had grossly violated their airspace, and repeatedly refused to comply with the intercept instructions. The US would do the same thing today, only much faster.
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You are correct that Iranians are Persian. What they are not, is Arab.
I didn't know they're was a difference. What’s the difference?
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Originally Posted by ItnStln
I didn't know they're was a difference. What’s the difference?
very different ethic backgrounds, history and cultures. Persians converted to Islam, Arabs created it. Call a Persian an Arab and be prepared to duck, they’re quite convinced of their superiority.
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very different ethic backgrounds, history and cultures. Persians converted to Islam, Arabs created it. Call a Persian an Arab and be prepared to duck, they’re quite convinced of their superiority.
Thanks, I wasn't aware of the differences and thought they were synonymous.
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