rickair7777

Same. Old saying in the military: Once is happenstance, Twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.

The special operations version: Once is your warning, the second time had better be YOU taking the action.

I'll post this for humor value only, no political overtones intended...

TiredSoul

If you’ve worked somewhere for 32 years, that’s almost your entire working life….
It must be heart breaking and give an intense feeling of betrayal to have to do the right thing like he did.
So much easier to turn a blind eye like hundreds of others did and are still doing.
Boeing may not have pulled the trigger but they’re morally responsible for his death.

JohnBurke

Suspicious, but most likely just what it appears, a suicide. The media is having a party crucifying Boeing lately, mostly over unrelated incidents, some of which have no information and range from potential pilot error to airline maintenance issues (wheel fell off 777, mysterious “exorcist” 787 falling event, several air turn-backs). Every time something happens, the news story covers it dramatically, then cryptically adds a reference to the Alaska door plug, and the 737 Max, to imply it’s all somehow a chain of failure from Boeing. Now the suicide…with “apparent” and “alleged” in quotation marks, to say, without saying “yeah, right, this guy was murdered by Boeing.” Lots of drama, no facts to support it. The drama sells advertising, though.

It's crack cocaine for the conspiracy junkies.

It may be a murder. As yet, however, there is no evidence to support that, other than wild speculation. It may be better to wait for the facts, and see where they lead.

rickair7777

Certainly could be suicide, that's what Occam says. But the guy has recently been validated/vindicated and is getting a lot of media attention. So kind of a high point in his life as a professional whistleblower. There could be unrelated things going on of course. Suicide isn't always particularly rational.

Nordhavn

whistleblowers very seldom shoot themselves in the head and still have the gun in their hand. A man willing to disclose what he has already and was supposed to deliver the following day is a man with courage. Do they really expect people with eyes to believe the official narrative is b.s.? Almost as bad as Vince Foster's death. Billions of reasons why Boeing would want this man silenced. Now he is. This country is as corrupt as you can get.

AntiCompanyMan

Part of me wonders if the whistleblower had already spoken of all the skeletons in the closet at Boeing, and decided the only way to heighten suspicions was to kill himself the day before his deposition, provoking the kind of public discussions that we are currently seeing. Almost as if he decided his suicide would be more impactful at pressuring Boeing to change things than sitting through yet another deposition, which he had been doing for years with minimal consequences to Boeing.

Definitely tin foil hat territory here though

BlueScholar

Whats your source on that claim? Because I found a few interesting sources.


"Rodney Barnett said working at Boeing created stress for John. “He was suffering from PTSD and anxiety attacks as a result of being subjected to the hostile work environment at Boeing, which we believe led to his death,” the brother said."
From https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/a-former-boeing-manager-who-raised-safety-concerns-is-found-dead-coroner-suspects-he-killed-himself


By the way do you even know what this deposition was about?

"Barnett originally filed a complaint with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration in January 2017 alleging that Boeing retaliated against him. After nearly four years, the agency concluded that there was no retaliation, a decision that Barnett appealed about three years ago. His case has been pending since then, as the two sides have gone through discovery and prehearing motions..."
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a60179108/boeing-whistleblower-dead/

The deposition was part of Barnett's appeal of OSHA's determination that Boeing did not retaliate against him for whistleblowing. So tell me, why on earth would a fortune 500 company worth $112 billion GAS about a lawsuit WHICH THEY ALREADY WON? What would that payout be if OSHA reversed their findings? $10 million? $50 million in the worst case scenario? Boeing is losing $2.5 million every day on the KC-46, AF1 and Starliner programs. It's not even a drop in the bucket. But that's going to be enough to not only throw away a golden parachute but also to risk spending the rest of their life in prison because they might increase their annual losses on those 4 budget items by 5%?
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a60179108/boeing-whistleblower-dead/

Put the Bourne novels down and join us in the real world.

kevinc5

Poisoned while trying to escape.

Nordhavn

Sorry. Boeing would never do anything bad. They are an altruistic company which puts safety above all else. They don't have any friends on capital hill to help their troubles disappear. Do you think Pfizer is here for public health too? You need a red pill brother. WTFU!

sailingfun

He had already testified repeatedly to everything he had on Boeing. Boeing had nothing to gain by his death. In fact they probably lose far more than any gain. Faked suicides are also very difficult to pull off. It's not like streaming TV.