Boeing whistleblower found dead
#42
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Certainly could be suicide, that's what Occam says. But the guy has recently been validated/vindicated and is getting a lot of media attention. So kind of a high point in his life as a professional whistleblower. There could be unrelated things going on of course. Suicide isn't always particularly rational.
#43
you are totally missing what he just got doing and what he was going to go do. Yeah, the media was parading him around like some hero. Well, I can guarantee you the lawyers that were doing his deposition were not. They would have poked all kinds of holes in his story, and been real jerks about it, they are lawyers after all. The guy was under the impression that Boeing was an airline, not a manufacturer.
#44
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You're sure about that?
Sorry. Boeing would never do anything bad. They are an altruistic company which puts safety above all else. They don't have any friends on capital hill to help their troubles disappear. Do you think Pfizer is here for public health too? You need a red pill brother. WTFU!
Part of me wonders if the whistleblower had already spoken of all the skeletons in the closet at Boeing, and decided the only way to heighten suspicions was to kill himself the day before his deposition, provoking the kind of public discussions that we are currently seeing. Almost as if he decided his suicide would be more impactful at pressuring Boeing to change things than sitting through yet another deposition, which he had been doing for years with minimal consequences to Boeing.
Have it removed. Just when one thought the conspiracy bull **** couldn't get any deeper, here it is. Idiotic. He killed himself to provoke public discussion? Now there's some self-sacrifice.
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yes, I am sure, because I have been reading about his nonsense since 2019. He claims that when they found damaged parts on the assembly line he would red tag them. Then a manager would come by and have the next shift come in and reinstall it on the aircraft so it could fly to the delivery center in Everette. Back then they didn’t deliver aircraft from Charleston. Everything went to Everett first. What he didn’t know, and no one felt the need to explain it to him, is that flying with non-conforming parts is legal on production ticketed aircraft flown under part 91 operations. The parts were replaced before delivery in Everett. He even admitted in a 2019 NTY podcast that he can’t prove the planes were delivered that way. Because he wasn’t there!!!
#46
yes, I am sure, because I have been reading about his nonsense since 2019. He claims that when they found damaged parts on the assembly line he would red tag them. Then a manager would come by and have the next shift come in and reinstall it on the aircraft so it could fly to the delivery center in Everette. Back then they didn’t deliver aircraft from Charleston. Everything went to Everett first. What he didn’t know, and no one felt the need to explain it to him, is that flying with non-conforming parts is legal on production ticketed aircraft flown under part 91 operations. The parts were replaced before delivery in Everett. He even admitted in a 2019 NTY podcast that he can’t prove the planes were delivered that way. Because he wasn’t there!!!
Whistleblower types are frequently disaffected, with border-line or not-so-borderline personality disorders. They can be prone to be the canary in the coal mine, as more stable folks tend to not want to rock the boat they sail in. There are obviously issues at BCA, and half of the population of SEA had to have known about it.
#47
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Certainly could be suicide, that's what Occam says. But the guy has recently been validated/vindicated and is getting a lot of media attention. So kind of a high point in his life as a professional whistleblower. There could be unrelated things going on of course. Suicide isn't always particularly rational.
Ever dealt with conspiracy, whistle blower, martyrs, or people who see the worst in everything? Or who have pyschological issues on top of these other issues? It can be a mess to deal with. No clue if any of that applies to this case but given his legal losses Occam says it's probably not a conspiracy. But boy oh boy is this a text book trigger for conspiracy believers....and anyone who doesn't see the conspiracy is a sheep!!
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Last but not least, psychotherapy for both whistleblowers and family members who provide them with support during this time is a life-saving necessity. Psychology and psychiatry programs can develop curricula focused specifically on whistleblowing, with psychologists who create programs for people to regulate their nervous systems and build the coping mechanisms to move through gaslighting and shame, and the after-effects of whistleblowing which could include insomnia, post-traumatic stress disorder, or substance abuse
https://fortune.com/2024/03/13/boein...-john-barnett/
https://fortune.com/2024/03/13/boein...-john-barnett/
#49
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This is one of the cases where just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean you're wrong.
Whistleblower types are frequently disaffected, with border-line or not-so-borderline personality disorders. They can be prone to be the canary in the coal mine, as more stable folks tend to not want to rock the boat they sail in. There are obviously issues at BCA, and half of the population of SEA had to have known about it.
Whistleblower types are frequently disaffected, with border-line or not-so-borderline personality disorders. They can be prone to be the canary in the coal mine, as more stable folks tend to not want to rock the boat they sail in. There are obviously issues at BCA, and half of the population of SEA had to have known about it.
And why was this thread buried and hidden in the pilot lounge>safety section that few people scroll down to?
#50
And it's not "buried", this is the forum for stuff like this, we don't need multiple threads in multiple forums for the same topic.
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