So controllers get more rest.........
04-18-2011, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Great Cornholio
So a few ATC'rs fall asleep and within WEEKS they get an hour added to their min rest. No one died in any of the sleeping controller deals. More than 2 years ago 51 people DIED due to tired pilots, yet we do not have new rules yet.
I'm watching TV and the news has the ATC union and sleep experts saying that the controllers need more rest rules, and that they need to have circadian cycles taken into account and have less swapping from day to night shift for controllers. My question is why on earth aren't ALL of the pilot unions standing beside the ATC union with the sleep experts pushing for better rest rules for all of us on both sides of the radio??? This would be the perfect time to add the extra push to get these rules through and actually change the proposed new rules that allows us to fly more but end up less tired somehow.
Sorry for the rant...it just seems like a super huge missed opportunity for all pilot unions to push for a change.
I'm watching TV and the news has the ATC union and sleep experts saying that the controllers need more rest rules, and that they need to have circadian cycles taken into account and have less swapping from day to night shift for controllers. My question is why on earth aren't ALL of the pilot unions standing beside the ATC union with the sleep experts pushing for better rest rules for all of us on both sides of the radio??? This would be the perfect time to add the extra push to get these rules through and actually change the proposed new rules that allows us to fly more but end up less tired somehow.
Sorry for the rant...it just seems like a super huge missed opportunity for all pilot unions to push for a change.
The difference is controllers are paid by the taxpayers so the government does not mind increasing controller costs.
IMHO
04-18-2011, 09:59 PM
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04-18-2011, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilGN
04-18-2011, 10:16 PM
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Prior to this, the rest / duty rules were very simple. Nothing like flight crews.
- 1 day in 7 had to be off duty
- 8 hours between duty periods (split shifts notwithstanding)
- 10 hour max duty day
- Per contract, no more than 2 hours on position without a break
So, for these mid shifts, you could work 3pm-11pm on Monday, 7am-3pm on Tues, and come in that late evening at 11pm, and work until 7am the next morning.
It has exactly 8 hours rest between each, with 8 hour shifts.
- 1 day in 7 had to be off duty
- 8 hours between duty periods (split shifts notwithstanding)
- 10 hour max duty day
- Per contract, no more than 2 hours on position without a break
So, for these mid shifts, you could work 3pm-11pm on Monday, 7am-3pm on Tues, and come in that late evening at 11pm, and work until 7am the next morning.
It has exactly 8 hours rest between each, with 8 hour shifts.
04-18-2011, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sinsilvia666
i agree this opportunity completely should have been to brought light on both subjects, sadly as usual it will take another smoking hole to do it.
04-19-2011, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
It has exactly 8 hours rest between each, with 8 hour shifts.
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04-19-2011, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Godzilla
I have been thinking the same thing.
The difference is controllers are paid by the taxpayers so the government does not mind increasing controller costs.
IMHO
The difference is controllers are paid by the taxpayers so the government does not mind increasing controller costs.
IMHO
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