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Old 12-10-2023, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido View Post
So I watched all that. Well put together for a general interest piece. Can the airframe ever be found? What was the point of it?
It can be found. Worst case it might take the better part of a century, like the Titanic.

Eventually somebody will fund a autonomous UUV or maybe a surface platform to drive around the IO and do a sonar search of the bottom. Like Titanic, eventually technology will be affordable enough for a historical interest project. The wreckage isn't going anywhere.
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It can be found. Worst case it might take the better part of a century, like the Titanic.

Eventually somebody will fund a autonomous UUV or maybe a surface platform to drive around the IO and do a sonar search of the bottom. Like Titanic, eventually technology will be affordable enough for a historical interest project. The wreckage isn't going anywhere.
Indeed. Stays right there. A lot of thought went into hiding it. Has to be a trail. No crime is unsolvable.
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Old 12-11-2023, 06:15 AM
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Conspiracy bull ****.

Nobody is hiding the aircraft. It's a very big ocean.
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Old 12-11-2023, 08:32 AM
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Ocean big, never occurred to me. Full of secrets maybe? Which is why it’s lost. No accident either.
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Old 12-12-2023, 05:25 AM
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Conspiracy bull ****.

Nobody is hiding the aircraft. It's a very big ocean.
I think they meant “hiding it” by crashing the aircraft if a very remote, deep and mountainous part of the ocean. The Titanic was relatively easy to find, flat ocean floor. Try finding it in an underwater mountain rage.

Also, it is going somewhere. Currents can move it around and spread it out. That is why they find a piece every so often washed up somewhere. It would take some Star Trek level sensors to find this thing now.
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer View Post
I think they meant “hiding it” by crashing the aircraft if a very remote, deep and mountainous part of the ocean. The Titanic was relatively easy to find, flat ocean floor. Try finding it in an underwater mountain rage.

Also, it is going somewhere. Currents can move it around and spread it out. That is why they find a piece every so often washed up somewhere. It would take some Star Trek level sensors to find this thing now.
Exactly. There's got to be a way to locate the lost bigfoot.
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Old 12-12-2023, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer View Post
I think they meant “hiding it” by crashing the aircraft if a very remote, deep and mountainous part of the ocean. The Titanic was relatively easy to find, flat ocean floor. Try finding it in an underwater mountain rage.

Also, it is going somewhere. Currents can move it around and spread it out. That is why they find a piece every so often washed up somewhere. It would take some Star Trek level sensors to find this thing now.
The stuff they are finding are small parts that float. Surface currents can take floaty stuff all over the world.

The big pieces are too heavy to get moved around on the bottom.

Harder to find on uneven bottom surfaces but not impossible... aluminum has different characteristics than rock. Also other than the Perth/Aarbian Gulf shipping lane, the search region is very lightly travelled so shouldn't be too much man-made debris out there. Especially since there would have been almost no shipping traffic anywhere in that area prior to the modern age and petroleum... supertankers don't sink nearly as often as the sailing ships of yore.

The real challenge is that, compared to most famous shipwrecks, the search area is exceptionally large. Either need to narrow it down a bit or use autnonomous search vehicles which don't require an expensive surface support ship. Yes the USN has such things, for different applications... turn 'em loose and let them do their thing for months on end. They'll report back periodically.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
The stuff they are finding are small parts that float. Surface currents can take floaty stuff all over the world.

The big pieces are too heavy to get moved around on the bottom.

Harder to find on uneven bottom surfaces but not impossible... aluminum has different characteristics than rock. Also other than the Perth/Aarbian Gulf shipping lane, the search region is very lightly travelled so shouldn't be too much man-made debris out there. Especially since there would have been almost no shipping traffic anywhere in that area prior to the modern age and petroleum... supertankers don't sink nearly as often as the sailing ships of yore.

The real challenge is that, compared to most famous shipwrecks, the search area is exceptionally large. Either need to narrow it down a bit or use autnonomous search vehicles which don't require an expensive surface support ship. Yes the USN has such things, for different applications... turn 'em loose and let them do their thing for months on end. They'll report back periodically.
yeah, but how many big pieces and just how big? Was it crashed nicely, or vertical at 420 knots? Once on the bottom the heavy pieces won’t move, but they sure got moved around on the long trip to the bottom. I do hope a large price is one day found.

you are right. Autonomous search vehicles are the only way. Remember, whoever did this went to great lengths to make sure there was no way to pinpoint where it crashed. From where the pieces washed up all we know for sure is it was the Indian Ocean.
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Originally Posted by METO Guido View Post
Indeed. Stays right there. A lot of thought went into hiding it. Has to be a trail. No crime is unsolvable.
no crime is unsolvable????

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no crime is unsolvable????
Solved v prosecuted. There’s a difference. Somewhere on a seabed the shoes of MH370 await discovery.
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