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Old 03-16-2014, 09:57 AM
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But apparently FAA, NTSB, and US Intel already reached the conclusion that the lateral track was not random meandering.
Conclusion

The Captain signed off after he turned the transponder off.
Stated as conclusion

I think that shows the plane still under control of someone...........
Opinion stated as a conclusion.

Plane continued to 'ping' satellites for up to 6 hours after so called crash.
Stated as fact - therefore a conclusion.

Some people are careful about differentiating between 'educated guesses', opinions, and FACTS.
Originally Posted by AZFlyer View Post
What do you mean by 'signed off'? And is that 100% confirmed fact? Is there not any non-malicious reason why someone would do that?

The only thing we, the public, know for certain is that the airplane didn't arrive at its intended destination and that we don't know where it is now. There are no other hard 100% established facts known about this mystery.
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NO ONE knows that the transponder was turned off. This is why words matter so much in an accident investigation and why the NTSB is so diligent it how they word their press releases and statements. What we are seeing is an example of a wild west accident investigation, without the NTSB, and the media in charge. Impressive, isn't it?
Originally Posted by FDXLAG View Post
Please highlight the post where someone has drawn a conclusion. I see lots of educated guesses, plenty of historical references, even some fairly good technical explanations; but no conclusions. Any post will do.
I only went back to posts from page 35....but I'd bet that there are a few more posts in the thread using the words 'facts' in them when referencing this current mystery when actually there are actually very few in this case. I think on this most would agree.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mazster View Post
I don't want to beat a dead horse re an intercept attempt, but if you think out of the box a bit, I believe it could have been ascertained whether or not the plane was being actively piloted. Why couldn't a fighter scare the crap out of someone flying the 777 just to make him move the stick a bit...you would know if it was on AP or not. I'm sure there would have been ways to know the condition of that aircraft.
Let's take a guess that some of the users responding to your post about interception TTPs have actually performed intercepts on other airplanes and/or have flown in close formation with other aircraft (even large aircraft) and have a fair idea of what could have been accomplished?
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:26 AM
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OK...educate me USMCFLYER...why is it inconceivable to attempt a maneuver on an intercept that would force a reaction by a pilot in command of the 777...even at night?
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Well, now we have heard from someone of authority....CNN dredged up Bill Savage as an expert commentator.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mazster View Post
OK...educate me USMCFLYER...why is it inconceivable to attempt a maneuver on an intercept that would force a reaction by a pilot in command of the 777...even at night?
I don't understand what hypothetical world you're living in. Why is this relevant to the discussion?
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Originally Posted by Mazster View Post
OK...educate me USMCFLYER...why is it inconceivable to attempt a maneuver on an intercept that would force a reaction by a pilot in command of the 777...even at night?
USMCFlyer, don't feed the trolls.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
I don't understand what hypothetical world you're living in. Why is this relevant to the discussion?
It's relevant to earlier posts in the thread wherein I was questioning why an intercept was not attempted early on in the incident. I'm not talking about present day. NOTHING was known at that point and in my hypothetical world an intercept might have determined if the 777 was under AP or pilot control.
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Originally Posted by LightAttack View Post
USMCFlyer, don't feed the trolls.
LOL...Obviously you can't answer the question.
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Originally Posted by Mazster View Post
LOL...Obviously you can't answer the question.
Your question has been answered several times over and ridiculed for its idiocy. In 10 posts you're making quite a name for yourself, and not in a good way.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
You're using a broad brush stroke in order to describe a very specific event. Yes, there are lots of Muslim terrorist groups. There are also Christian terrorist groups. Just because there are far less doesn't mean they are any less culpable BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE HAVE.

Since we are all making wild accusations, why hasn't anyone blamed the Somali pirates for this? Or Hezbollah? What about Bengal Tigers of India? My point is, just because Islamic terrorists have used airlines against the US in the past for destruction doesn't mean that should be the automatic assumption from now on.
Some of us have had our heads tamped so full of state school bull that we can no longer select the most probable outcome from a list of probable outcomes.
Nobody has made an assumption, they have made a guess based on available evidence, to deny the highest probability is to admit the death of your common sense.
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