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Quote: This is the same exact reason why few care when airline pilots get their contracts gutted and pay reduced. Those poor guys. I hope they don’t go hungry. Must be terrible for them.
Apples to oranges. Last time I checked the airlines don't get huge sums of money from discretionary spending revenue streams such as direct tv etc.
The way the story was presented irritated me . People were worrying about how they're going to meet their financial obligations but don't worry, the sports team took a 25% pay cut. That should make everyone feel better.
Who was the guy that touched all the microphones at the news conference then tested positive for Covid? That guy is real genius.
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Quote: This is the same exact reason why few care when airline pilots get their contracts gutted and pay reduced. Those poor guys. I hope they don’t go hungry. Must be terrible for them.
You sound like a bitter, jealous and uneducated guy who either missed his opportunity in the airlines or just flat out couldn’t cut it...
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Quote: You sound like a bitter, jealous and uneducated guy who either missed his opportunity in the airlines or just flat out couldn’t cut it...
That looks like a bit of a mis-read. He may very well have been with the airlines, or is with the airlines, or continues to have the potential to go to the airlines. His point being, people look at airline pilots, and having no idea how tough it really is to get to that career stage, seem to think airline pilots are making money hand-over-fist and have infinite resources to remain worry-free whenever work shuts down.
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Quote: You sound like a bitter, jealous and uneducated guy who either missed his opportunity in the airlines or just flat out couldn’t cut it...
And you missed the fact that he was referring to the general population I believe - and I can see where he is coming from in his post.

Signed - a guy who has never even applied to the airlines because I guess I just couldn't cut it (but I least I have reading comprehension)!

Das Auto - you and I are often on the same page and I understand what you are trying to say; but with so many losing so much right now - it is hard for some to hear that the United pilot just went to 2/3rds pay for two months sitting at home (especially when that 2/3rds pay is still so many times more than they are making in a good year much less with their business closed down)

NOT for the NBA guys >G<, but a little sympathy all around and a little more understanding from all would help in these times.
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Quote: And you missed the fact that he was referring to the general population I believe - and I can see where he is coming from in his post.

Signed - a guy who has never even applied to the airlines because I guess I just couldn't cut it (but I least I have reading comprehension)!

Das Auto - you and I are often on the same page and I understand what you are trying to say; but with so many losing so much right now - it is hard for some to hear that the United pilot just went to 2/3rds pay for two months sitting at home (especially when that 2/3rds pay is still so many times more than they are making in a good year much less with their business closed down)

NOT for the NBA guys >G<, but a little sympathy all around and a little more understanding from all would help in these times.
I really feel for the 10 year expressjet F.O who never broke six figures but finally got hired by a major airline, then this happens. The huge cost and debt incurred from learning to fly and college education (for the majority that have a degree) certainly warrant the kind of frustration that Johnny jet prop and others feel the need to vent.
Someone once told me that a career in aviation is similar to a career in acting. Sure, some go all the way and make huge sums of money (Brad Pitt meets FedEx captain) but the majority don't go that far.

Regardless, I don't have much sympathy for someone who used to make $60,000,000 a year but now only makes $45,000,000 a year because they can no longer move a ball from one end of a field or court to the other in the name of entertainment.

In no way was that a comparison to the airlines on my part and I'm still baffled as to how some came to that conclusion.
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Quote: I really feel for the 10 year expressjet F.O who never broke six figures but finally got hired by a major airline, then this happens. The huge cost and debt incurred from learning to fly and college education (for the majority that have a degree) certainly warrant the kind of frustration that Johnny jet prop and others feel the need to vent.
Someone once told me that a career in aviation is similar to a career in acting. Sure, some go all the way and make huge sums of money (Brad Pitt meets FedEx captain) but the majority don't go that far.

Regardless, I don't have much sympathy for someone who used to make $60,000,000 a year but now only makes $45,000,000 a year because they can no longer move a ball from one end of a field or court to the other in the name of entertainment.

In no way was that a comparison to the airlines on my part and I'm still baffled as to how some came to that conclusion.
Because my friend working at Firestone 6 days a week in the non-environmentally controlled garage on commission doesn’t really care if the numbers are $30 million or $300,000.
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Quote: Because my friend working at Firestone 6 days a week in the non-environmentally controlled garage on commission doesn’t really care if the numbers are $30 million or $300,000.
Well it’s all relative I guess. The guy living in a hut in India watching his kids starve doesn’t really care that your friend at Firestone is low on commission because people are staying at home.
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Quote: Well it’s all relative I guess. The guy living in a hut in India watching his kids starve doesn’t really care that your friend at Firestone is low on commission because people are staying at home.
bingo. All wealth is relative. The socialist who shames the G600 owner for spending money on a jet instead of giving it to the poor ought to remember that when they buy their next iPhone/TV/PC/Labradoodle/Car/Tall Latte. Because the socialist is to the guy in the hut just as the G600 owner is to the socialist.
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Clearly I miscommunicated my message. Yes, I'm an airline pilot and basically what this poster and USMCFLYR said.


Quote: That looks like a bit of a mis-read. He may very well have been with the airlines, or is with the airlines, or continues to have the potential to go to the airlines. His point being, people look at airline pilots, and having no idea how tough it really is to get to that career stage, seem to think airline pilots are making money hand-over-fist and have infinite resources to remain worry-free whenever work shuts down.
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Quote: Well it’s all relative I guess. The guy living in a hut in India watching his kids starve doesn’t really care that your friend at Firestone is low on commission because people are staying at home.
Yep...exactly correct.

johnnyjetprop - guess it could go each way. Either you miscommunicated your message (says one), or your communication was misunderstood (says two)
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