Ofcouse you would say that, since you are the one being turned down. We have an agreement with just about everyone, even small 135 places. In 4+ years our J/S chairman only had a few people ask him why we didn't have an agreement with GJ. I don't think most pilots in our group really cared if we could ride on GJ or not.

I would like to apologize, I have personal rule of not drinking and going on the forums but I broke that rule. The paragraph you are referring to had nothing to do with you and I tried to add an extra line of space to separate it but it should have been a separate post or not even mentioned at all. The dull logic behind it came from posts I have seen in the past about crews threating other crews and I just think that is pathetic. Again my apologies, it had absolutely nothing to do with you.



I’m not sure what you mean by you being consistent, it seem like you are implying that I am not but I don’t agree with that.

And I’m not trying to deflect your question with a question but I don’t really see a question in there. Could you please be more specific and I’d be happy to answer any questions you have?

It was actually a serious question about who is threatening others, and further I hope folks don't feel physically threatened by what I say. I have no need to figure out who any of you are. None-the-less apology accepted. Takes guts and class not many have on the.forums to apologize. I have had a few brews when I have read the forums myself. Buzzed forum-ing is drunk forum-ing.

You said something about me mentioning that management has won at GJ and TSA. My beef is mostly that pilots let GJ succeed from the start, thus emboldening management for future power plays. I know it is clear I am not happy with the creation of GJ and not happy that pilots decided to work for them. My question was, if literally no one flew for them initially, what would have happened to GJ? Would the TSA pilots had a chance to play ball? I care about that saga for sake of another pilot group, not my own. Pilots support other pilots. In this case I feel that Waterskiers were let down.

I'd say McDonalds needs to get a union!

Not at some mainline airlines!

I feel like TSH uses GJ as a test bed to find out how much shady business the pilot group will put up with, and the pilots bent over there say "thank you sir, may I have another?" Then they go around defending and even lying about the state of affairs there.
I chose to be a flight instructor an extra year instead of going to GJ...

I have a question for you all. I personally know several Comair guys who are going over to Gojet. I understand why so many TSA guys/ gals are upset at Gojet. That said, we have 5+ year FO's who will soon be on the street at Comair who could be CQFO's or upgrade quickly at Gojet. As I said earlier, I really do feel bad for the plight of the TSA pilots. That said, we at Comair held the line in early 2001, and that didn't exactly work out for us. Not that it will matter to everyone, but the new flying Gojet is getting are CA tail numbers. My question is
how poorly would soon to be furloughed Comair be viewed if they made the switch to Gojet?

Tail numbers don't mean anything. The first G7 Delta aircraft left Comair in 07 and went to ASA and then to Expressjet. The aircraft is owned by Delta. Never heard a word about ASA stealing flying from OH but let G7 get planes from ASA and holy crap hell has frozen over and G7 is stealing flying by under bidding. From what I hear ASA couldn't staff the flying Delta gave them.

From what I'm hearing, G7 is having the same problem.

That is because you joined in OCT 11. It was said back when it happened.