Exactly.

And 9 days is a little over a week. 21st to the 30th 👍

After much though regarding the TA, I'm still struggling to figure out why MG, the execs, and F&H would all of a sudden want a deal done. The rumors are about needing financing for a large new airplane order (more than likely will be more used Airbuses from a place like Cebu).

But the major problem I'm having with this TA is that this is very reminiscent of the fight we had over six years ago with the last pay raise, and I'm starting to think this is their MO, and we keep falling for it:

1. Wear down your pilot group over the course of years, take away stuff, make their work-life almost unbearable.
2. Start a rumor or talk about future growth of this airline, get us thinking that this airline is headed in the right direction. In 2009, this was the 757 and Hawaii talk, now it's a rumor of a large airplane order, and they're going to be...gasp...NEW!!! This airline is definitely headed in the right direction now...
3. Throw money at the pilots to get them to agree to a contract with no work rules. They've been so frustrated that they just want a deal now. In 2009, we accepted an increase in pay with the promise that they would deal with work rules after. Not only did that not happen, they went ahead and just started throwing them out when they felt like it (pref bidding, merlot, etc.). Now, they're locking us in to a five year deal with pitiful work rules.

In summary, we said we weren't going to settle for a contract without awesome work rules, the company made life unbearable, then word all of a sudden comes out about growth and brand new airplanes, they throw a bunch of money at us, we forget about how unbearable it's been to work her because we have money on the brain, so we vote it in!

2009, now 2016. Hopefully we won't fall for it again in 2021.

Off the current topic of the TA... Are people planning to attend the Allegiant pilot meet and greet supposed to "Apply" for that job listing on the allegiant career site? I don't see any directions either way, just show up or apply to that job listing to get on their list of attendees. Anyone know?

This rumor of 300mil in new airplanes, that's like 5 airplanes

Well, we only purchased 6 757s; at least they'd be staying consistent with the half-a$$ery

I understand the idea that we have weak work rules on this TA. Bear in mind what we do get beyond the pay.

Here is what I will get beyond pay...

4 weeks vacation
Around 150 hours sick time in year one
10% 401k
Solid merger protection
Scope
200% Mission Mode (and the ability to pick it up again now that we have a TA)
Home Study pay
12 guaranteed days off 9 months of the year
Better and cheaper insurance
Lineholder can't be placed on reserve
Band system gone
Keep 130% override after 81 hours
2/1 trip rigs
4hr min pay overnights
Training Pay now 4 hours instead of $80
Profit Sharing

Look I get that our work rules are bad in many places, but I'm tired of hearing it's all pay and no work rules. There are indeed benefits beyond pay so this is not the same as our buy out to reject ALPA.

Well said Labbats. In comparison to our current work rules we have absolutely nothing. Let me add that there is a contractual grievance process in the TA. Allegiant management has enjoyed an almost unfettered ability to terminate an astounding amount of pilots in the last six years. They do so very easily because they can. Voting down a TA at an airline like SWA or Delta and having in place a status quo contract will not be the same here. Add at least another year of no protections for your career via a merger or termination.

We went from 300 pilots to over 700 & you're saying their promises of growth last time were bogus?

And that doesn't even touch on:

-Having to call after a RSV assignment for release while they have up to an hour to reassign you something. Thats not even 117 legal from what I can see. I set the brake I'm done FDP-wise.

-Dropped for IOE (ROE obligation) doesn't limit you to your original trip duty footprint nor can you just refuse it anymore.

-Positive contact is not spelled out very well and many are concerned it's too vague and no better than now.

-Base fleet transition is now a system wide bid rather than base first.

-Equipment lock language is contradictory.

This is just off the top of my head so far. The language is SUPER WEAK. For three years we've been promised a contract we can be proud of and that raises the bar. I'm sorry, but this TA as it stands is NOT that contract and why I'm a solid NO VOTE.

I understand and fully agree with all of your points. I just find it disingenuous to say this is strictly a pay grab. It isn't. My vote is not a slam dunk or an easy choice. I too am anxious to hear the roadshow.