I must be crazy as well, but I've found 404yxl's posts in the Compass thread to be rather informative and unbiased.

Move on from what? I am only educatng pilots about what to expect with our new upcoming situation. Are you telling us you don't think pilots deserve to know how it all works and how everything will change so they know how trips will be paying us in the future?

I can almost guarantee you we will have pilots confused during the switch over. The attitude that some of you have on here when I state we are not going to a 4 hour min/day option, just comes of that you don't want people to know that.

It's pushback I'm getting for trying to state the realities, that the 50 seat aircraft will be on their way out much sooner than anticipated, and the realities of the ADTG going away and how our credit for trips will change with the 4 hours of add credit for a non-working calendar day.

I'm just amazed the level of vitriol from pilots who don't like when someone states those realities. It just comes off that they want to silence the truth and they hate anyone that won't shut-up when they tell them to.

Can we please keep the riff raff and other pointless BS in this forum out of the Compass thread? Come on 404

404yxl waking up every morning and realizing he and no one else can do ANYTHING about the ADTG thing.

Seriously...give it up. It's not as earth shattering as you say it is and the fact that you think new hires need to make this a priority in their decision is ludicrous. Airlines have been doing 4 hour min day for a really long time. You must not have been here before the most recent contract.
Sooooo....enough already! How about getting involved in ALPA and making real changes instead of coming on here to betch about a dead in the water topic.

First off sorry for continuing non compass trash on this thread... I really did come here to see what was up with the other base neighbors.


50 seat jets have been said to be on the way out "right around the corner" for long time. A buddy of mine at endeavor said they are now pulling 200's from the desert, and Delta extended RAH contract on the 50 seaters. So weird... It seems it is more likely the 200's will all time out before they are not wanted anymore. And I ain't worried bout 200s being parked, it isn't a denial thing for me, new planes will replace the old ones and I'm okay with that.

I know I'm beating a dead horse here but as long as we are educating new hires, let's not leave out the part where we're better off without ADTG. I have 2 calendar day overnights at hotels this month that I am not getting pay or credit for. That's 2 days of my life and 8 hrs. of pay down the drain. Another month I had 4 of those. When do we switch from ADTG anyway? Next month? Can't be soon enough.

Next month. That's the reason for the noticible reduction in trip productivity for June.

I see a lot of lines with 11-12 days off. Ouch. Lot of guys went from working 15-17 days for 85 hours to working 18 or 19 days for 85 hours.

At the end of the day, this is what the vocal minority wanted. They managed to sway the entire pilot group into voting a trip rig out. You reap what you sow.

If yall want to continue talking about ADTG, MAKE A THREAD FOR IT.

Why? It's a compass issue? A past issue but a compass issue.