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Old 05-26-2015 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
do you guys have 20 pilots bidding in the june 1 delta class that wont be there? I know there is 20 actually in the class but wasnt sure if 20 more will be bidding and when they get their notice
Probably, not entirely sure how it work, but I think 20 get to bid every month when they normally would start new hire class, but are held then for 90 days. I think the last flows will be technically be August or September "hire dates" and then will be held back for 90 days.
Old 05-26-2015 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
Probably, not entirely sure how it work, but I think 20 get to bid every month when they normally would start new hire class, but are held then for 90 days. I think the last flows will be technically be August or September "hire dates" and then will be held back for 90 days.
That was my understanding as well. With the 90 day holdbacks, the 'June' bidding flow guys from Compass will physically enter class at the beginning of September.

The people from CPZ who are physically present in the early June DL newhire class would have been the 'March' bid flows.

Please correct me if I screwed that up. #mentalmath

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Old 05-26-2015 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LostInPA
That was my understanding as well. With the 90 day holdbacks, the 'June' bidding flow guys from Compass will physically enter class at the beginning of September.

The people from CPZ who are physically present in the early June DL newhire class would have been the 'March' bid flows.

Please correct me if I screwed that up. #mentalmath
Sounds right to me, each group bids in their flow month, not the month they leave property.
Old 05-26-2015 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LostInPA
That was my understanding as well. With the 90 day holdbacks, the 'June' bidding flow guys from Compass will physically enter class at the beginning of September.

The people from CPZ who are physically present in the early June DL newhire class would have been the 'March' bid flows.

Please correct me if I screwed that up. #mentalmath
That is correct.
Old 05-26-2015 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
Do you understand what Mainline Scope and the ATP minimums coupled with low regional compensation is doing to the regional model right now?

To tell prospective new hires to wait for management to announce something that will hurt their careers is terrible advice. You should be advising prospective new hires of the reality of the regional situation so they can make an informed decision and not be shocked when it happens.

I don't need to wait for announcements to know they will happen. Just read between the lines and you can make a very good determination about what is happening.
I imagine this is who 404 thinks he is:
Old 05-26-2015 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
do you guys have 20 pilots bidding in the june 1 delta class that wont be there? I know there is 20 actually in the class but wasnt sure if 20 more will be bidding and when they get their notice
There will be. 1st class in July as well.
Old 05-26-2015 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AluminumFoil
There will be. 1st class in July as well.
Don't forget the last three guys that will bid on August 3rd.
Old 05-26-2015 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Couldn't have said it better myself.

I don't doubt the 50 seaters will get parked one day. I just am not all doom and gloom about it!
I also don't go out of my way to burst everyone else's bubble so I can feel better about myself!
You guys crack me up. I said the new hires need to consider the fact that the 50 seat aircraft will be on their way out sooner than people are leading on.

And I don't feel better about myself by bursting someone's bubble. I feel better knowing they aren't being deceived into the realities of this industry.

I wasn't the one telling the prospective new hires that Skywest has 2 year upgrades for new hires.

Originally Posted by saturn
I felt I was being realistic 1 page back when people where asking me questions. I made it clear that it was speculation on my part though. Have some humility and admit you don't know it all, I know I don't. I have been right a lot and other times wrong, but I can't predict everything. Neither can you.
There is nothing to predict about the 50 seat aircraft getting parked and the regional industry shrinking. It's already happening.
Old 05-26-2015 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LostInPA
That was my understanding as well. With the 90 day holdbacks, the 'June' bidding flow guys from Compass will physically enter class at the beginning of September.

The people from CPZ who are physically present in the early June DL newhire class would have been the 'March' bid flows.

Please correct me if I screwed that up. #mentalmath
Since April 1 we are losing 20/month through October 1. Everyone will move up at least another 20/month for the July, August, September and October bids. There is probably a few left after that as FlyingGorilla stated.
Old 05-26-2015 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by UPTme
Is there an "Avoid pairings with -APC Username-" option in PBS?
Quoted my own post for 404xyz just in case he missed it the first time.

Dude, you did your research on the average day; kudos for that. That fight is over, though, and it really is time to move on. I challenge you to focus your efforts on something forward-looking that can benefit the pilot group. Best of luck.

Here's a quote I just made up that pertains to this situation: "You can be the smartest guy in the room with the greatest ideas, but if you're a wanker about it, people are going to tell you to pss off."

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