Just to add fuel, I've had one captain in maybe 100 say, " you're part of the crew if you see anything don't just sit there." I think that sets a good tone. As a B6 guy I've had AA guys new to the bus both look back at me at the same time when an ECAM message pops up though

I'd probably approach it the same way I'd do with one of my fellow pilots... did you still want the speed brakes out? (Message flashing, dirty, powering up...) Toss out the old calm, casual, professional inquiry. I had some trouble with the GS here before...does that PAPI look off to you? I need to get something out there. If only for the CVR. And the fact that I have a safety role on the pilot side and am on a first name basis with an NTSB board member complicates it.

If the OP's observed an approach in an AB, with auto thrust on, there is no stabilized power requirement.

Not trying to make light of the situation yet this doesn't seem like it warrants a "scary" situation. I'm going to guess you haven't been doing this to long? Who hasn't blown by the TDZ once or twice. I'm all for saying something if its life or death, but like others have said.....you'd better be sure its that bad. Nothing more annoying than the "excited" junior "backseat drivers" that thinks they are so much better than the guy at the helm!

Uh yeah... try the above scenario with Fred T. Rookus of the FAA on your jump seat, and let us know how it all works out for you and your F/O.

I've been in the jumpseat before when the crew set the wrong flap setting for takeoff. I spoke up and they corrected it.
Without more info such as runway length and airplane type it's hard to say exactly how to handle this situation. I'd let it go if landing distance isn't a factor. If it is "looks unstable" is probably a good place to start.

Being unstable at an arbitrary point (be it 1000' or 500') isn't, in and of itself, a dangerous situation.

Was high at ORD 32R (2 miles long) ten ft. off the ground F/O pushes the power up to T.O. 120k. 30 flaps, on the go, instructed by tower, immediate right turn. I thought I was toast.

From the FAA handbook, Chapter 15, Transitioning to Jet Aircraft.

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...7_afh_ch15.pdf


Its a situation that has the potential of lead to a dangerous situation.

Yes, precisely what I posted.

Sure tough guy. Spend some time in the business with this attitude and you won't last long. Jump-seaters are always included in my briefs and a welcomed part of the crew. They have pointed out many omitted items or deviations. I have always thanked them.

Not giving commands from the jump-seat. Pointing out a deviation that jeopardize the safety of the aircraft goes beyond ego and feelings. You need to check yours. There are standard procedures that all airlines must adhere to. If they are outside those parameters it is the duty of anyone in the cockpit to call it out.

The airline industry has too many accidents to list on APC, where something like this has transpired, when either no one said anything or something was said and the operating crew chose to ignore the comments resulting in an accident.