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Name User , 11-16-2019 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by diva

Thanks for the insight.

That explains why the latest trend of the E190 in PHL has been going so senior in the last few New Hire classes.

Someone mentioned earlier the E190 in PHL is a hidden gem the latest New Hires are just starting to discover as overall a pretty Good Deal with a lot of movement creating getting good schedules much faster, get to spend more nights at home with the family, for commuting purposes you Only have to worry about flying in&out of one (1) airport (PHL) vs being ping-ponged between three (3) airports in New York (LGA/EWR/JFK), not to mention all the other factors someone mentioned earlier Filty Crash Pad areas, Cost of transportation, 2-3 hr train/bus rides between airports, constant traffic, city congestion, $100 Uber rides, Noisy, Stressful commutes due to the structure of the terminals & possibly ending in EWR/JFK when you commute flight is out of LGA missing your flight or having to shuttle to a different Terminal etc.

I’m not going to lie, personally to me, all the moving parts involved in Commuting, not sure if you’ll make it/missing your flight to/from work due to traffic, delays, terminal swaps, shuttles running late etc is way more stressful than any of the actual flying.

Commuting is never fun and quite stressful in itself, but if I was given a choice I’d rather choose a less stressful commute than adding unnecessary stress to my life.

Wish people had told me this before I started. Sometimes we just have to learn the hard way.

The hardest part of this job is getting to work.

PHL has always been recommended on here. Lots of good info. From a commuter standpoint PHL is kinda the gold standard except for that whole weather thing which tends to make the hub go nuclear.

#2342

757HI , 11-19-2019 06:05 PM

Meh...

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Originally Posted by diva

I heard the same story from a AA crew last week. I wouldn’t mind getting 777 Captain pay while spending +18 nights at home.

The pilot gets the new rate on the effective date of the bid if withheld.

A check airman will get paid based on the highest paying aircraft their seniority can hold.

#2343

jgdeleon09 , 11-21-2019 06:14 AM

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Any word on the latest drop?

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black cat , 11-21-2019 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jgdeleon09

Any word on the latest drop?

This week was:

18 LGA 320
10 LGA 737
8 MIA 737
6 PHL 190
2 LAX 737

320 went senior as usual. 190 was the most junior 3 assignments followed by LGA 737.

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jgdeleon09 , 11-21-2019 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by black cat

This week was:

18 LGA 320
10 LGA 737
8 MIA 737
6 PHL 190
2 LAX 737

320 went senior as usual. 190 was the most junior 3 assignments followed by LGA 737.

Appreciate the info! Thanks!

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AAL24 , 11-21-2019 07:55 AM

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/03/united-airlines-ramps-up-recruitment-to-hire-10000-pilots-over-next-decade.html

American better step it up if they don’t want to be a distant third in 10 years. UAL retiring 5,000 and hiring 10,000. We seem to hire for attrition. Delta and United grow at +5% and cover attrition.

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nAAtive , 11-21-2019 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AAL24

United didn’t hire too much the last couple years compared to us I don’t believe.

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AAL24 , 11-21-2019 08:43 AM

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That is kind of irrelevant when you consider they are hiring 5,000 more than they are retiring. That will put United around 17,000 total pilots. I bet AA will still be treading water at +-13,500. Then when we fall way behind Delta and United Doug will announce a merger with JetBlue. It’s just not in Doug’s DNA to grow an airline.

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nAAtive , 11-21-2019 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AAL24

I guess I’m failing to see the difference in what they are doing versus what we are doing. They said 5000 new pilots over four years. That’s 1,250 a year on average. People are saying (compass project people) we are going to hire 1,100 to 1,500 in 2020. And we are still seven above our projected hiring numbers for 2019.

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AAL24 , 11-21-2019 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nAAtive

They are smaller than AA, they were dramatically smaller at the time of the AA/Airways merger and they have quickly closed the gap. It looks like they will overtake AA in size this coming decade just as Delta has done already. If AA retires 10,000 they will hire 10,000. UAL is going to retire 5,000 and they respond by hiring 10,000. At the time of the merger AA was the world’s biggest airline by a large margin. Now we are number 2 and quickly approaching number 3. It just seems unfortunate that our network team is cautious to the point of losing market share.