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#101

CaptCoolHand , 02-07-2018 07:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperboy

United's growth will be in the regionals? we fly all of our airplanes?

You should check your facts too.

#102

Bluedriver , 02-07-2018 07:46 AM

The REAL Bluedriver

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotpayne

Funny thing was I had a longer post that had to do with you and I and the time we have been here. Yes you are correct. My point to passer was he has been here 2 years if you did some research even just a little none of this should have surprised him. It’s not being rude or defending the company but it is what it is. When a delta contract won’t make you happy, there is not much that will.

I would be satisfied with a Delta contract and this place finding a rudder (strong vision for the future).

#103

Bluedriver , 02-07-2018 07:47 AM

The REAL Bluedriver

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand

You should check your facts too.

Don't get too proud of facts there Mr 2018 4-delivery guy.

#104

Bluedriver , 02-07-2018 07:48 AM

The REAL Bluedriver

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand

Still growing... Still hiring. still true.

I can't remember ever when we were close to the big 3 in pay rates. Certainly not in total compensation. Now close... close is another subjective term i suppose.

Growing and hiring at an ever slowing rate (percentage).

#105

Bluedriver , 02-07-2018 07:51 AM

The REAL Bluedriver

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand

You make it so difficult to be on your side...

Got it. We are "literally" still growing and hiring and not stagnant. But you "FEEL" stagnant because we're not retiring guys like the big 3 and not growing ASMs like the big 3 or taking deliveries fast enough. But earlier you argued that ASM's were not necessarily growth... Won't lift a finger to correct the record, but can't show up to support your union either.

You win, you go into the southerner irrational box of no longer credible.
Hope you can find time for the next picket if you're not too busy here on APC telling everyone how you feel.

I didn't argue ASMs aren't growth. I think you are confusing me with someone else or misunderstanding me. I had high confidence I could get out of my trip, it didn't happen. If you think selling JB as not being that bad (in ANY WAY) to potential new hires is supporting our pilots in negotiations, we have nothing more to talk about.

#106

Bluedriver , 02-07-2018 07:53 AM

The REAL Bluedriver

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotpayne

Don’t you commute from a major base for Delta are they not hiring are you qualified to go to a real airline? I honestly don’t know why you are still here. And I actually don’t care. Cool hand is a moderate so what. I’m a little tired of your if your not totally with me you are against me crap. Along with your posts of how smart you are and how you have called all of this and how dare people question you. Yeah I may be juicy joe and I still like jetblue and I have been wrong and right but you just come off as a total jerk sometimes. I’m sorry bluedriver I want to like you and I try to respect your posts but man you make it hard to do.

And this is why I took a month off these stupid forums

I am hirable, check all the boxes (yes I have a 4 year degree and no red flags). I have my reasons for staying so far and trying to make this a worthy career airline.

You have to know I just want a great contract and for this airline to find it's rudder.

#107

Bluedriver , 02-07-2018 07:57 AM

The REAL Bluedriver

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotpayne

You agreed with a dude who was countering my post saying he was "all correct". Yet he was using very bad data for 2018 to make his point.

What was I supposed to say?

#108

pilotpayne , 02-07-2018 07:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

I do get that.
Just stop being a dick on here. And understand almost all of us are with you. You can’t take yes for a answer. What you fail to grasp is not everyone is going to use the same tattics or feel the same as you do.

This is like the true believer republicans or democrats it’s all or nothing. But there is so much in the middle. And while you are correct sometimes you also tilt things just as you accuse others of doing. Which is totally fine just don’t be shocked when you get push back.

#109

pilotpayne , 02-07-2018 08:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

You agreed with a dude who was countering my post saying he was "all correct". Yet he was using very bad data for 2018 to make his point.

What was I supposed to say?

You guys are kind of arguing in parallel and you can actually both be right.
Yes growth has slowed but we are still growing.

#110

hyperboy , 02-07-2018 08:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand

You should check your facts too.

Talked to by buddy over at United and he said they want to open up CBA talks early and many fear this to be the motivation (regional flying). Just sayin'.