While Jetblue Stagnates....
#111
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I didn't argue ASMs aren't growth. I think you are confusing me with someone else or misunderstanding me. I had high confidence I could get out of my trip, it didn't happen. If you think selling JB as not being that bad (in ANY WAY) to potential new hires is supporting our pilots in negotiations, we have nothing more to talk about.
#112
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Scott Kirby has said publicly he plans on getting scope relaxed in exchange for higher wages in the next contract. He’s a master at regional proliferation (and whipsaws), as well as exploiting pilots for being greedy and being their own worst enemy. UAL ALPA has said they won’t budge on scope. I hope they have enough former regional guys who will hold the line.
#113
The REAL Bluedriver
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Oh, many fear. Give me a break. Pilots have all the leverage. UAL told Wall Street 6% ASM growth and UAL is in a scope choke. Great place for UAL pilots to be.
#114
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Scott Kirby has said publicly he plans on getting scope relaxed in exchange for higher wages in the next contract. He’s a master at regional proliferation (and whipsaws), as well as exploiting pilots for being greedy and being their own worst enemy. UAL ALPA has said they won’t budge on scope. I hope they have enough former regional guys who will hold the line.
#115
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#116
Was told from a P2P guy from UA That the union went to the company to open early, and they agreed. Versus the theory of Scott Kirby coming to alpa say hey let's Open early so I can try to alter the scope relief. Not saying he won't try. Additionally he tried this at AA and failed. We have pilots that got furlough for over a decade and got stuck for years just like everybody else , tons of regional guys here as well . no way scope gets caved in on.
#117
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I'm pretty sure I caviated that with an I don't remember. But lets look to see what I'm talking about. Go back and read the 8Ks and 10Ks from about 2010 moving forward. Look at the delivery schedules.
SEC-Show
You're right. It was 7. I stand corrected.
The point again is that it changes frequently.
Perspective, again, how many aircraft are we getting this year?
SEC-Show
It's 10. Still taking additional aircraft. Not getting rid of planes. Not, stopping deliveries... TAKING(more or less than expected depending on perspective) deliveries. Which means, we are growing. So henceforth, not stagnant.
None of this changes the fact that we are in a labor dispute.
FUPM.
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SEC-Show
You're right. It was 7. I stand corrected.
The point again is that it changes frequently.
Perspective, again, how many aircraft are we getting this year?
SEC-Show
It's 10. Still taking additional aircraft. Not getting rid of planes. Not, stopping deliveries... TAKING(more or less than expected depending on perspective) deliveries. Which means, we are growing. So henceforth, not stagnant.
None of this changes the fact that we are in a labor dispute.
FUPM.
Member of the 700strong.
Last edited by CaptCoolHand; 02-08-2018 at 09:19 AM. Reason: because...
#118
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#119
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