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Old 02-07-2018, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
I didn't argue ASMs aren't growth. I think you are confusing me with someone else or misunderstanding me. I had high confidence I could get out of my trip, it didn't happen. If you think selling JB as not being that bad (in ANY WAY) to potential new hires is supporting our pilots in negotiations, we have nothing more to talk about.
Were you planning on heading on into the BOS CP office and asking for a couple of "LUV" days so you could head on down for the picket? I am sure that would have went over as well as a "terd in a punch bowl?!"
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Old 02-07-2018, 08:16 AM
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Talked to by buddy over at United and he said they want to open up CBA talks early and many fear this to be the motivation (regional flying). Just sayin'.
Scott Kirby has said publicly he plans on getting scope relaxed in exchange for higher wages in the next contract. He’s a master at regional proliferation (and whipsaws), as well as exploiting pilots for being greedy and being their own worst enemy. UAL ALPA has said they won’t budge on scope. I hope they have enough former regional guys who will hold the line.
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Old 02-07-2018, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy View Post
Talked to by buddy over at United and he said they want to open up CBA talks early and many fear this to be the motivation (regional flying). Just sayin'.
Oh, many fear. Give me a break. Pilots have all the leverage. UAL told Wall Street 6% ASM growth and UAL is in a scope choke. Great place for UAL pilots to be.
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Old 02-07-2018, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
Scott Kirby has said publicly he plans on getting scope relaxed in exchange for higher wages in the next contract. He’s a master at regional proliferation (and whipsaws), as well as exploiting pilots for being greedy and being their own worst enemy. UAL ALPA has said they won’t budge on scope. I hope they have enough former regional guys who will hold the line.
They have to. If history teaches us ANYTHING keep control of scope
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Old 02-07-2018, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
Don't get too proud of facts there Mr 2018 4-delivery guy.
Slow down, homie. He was responding to HB, not you. This is why you lose support of others who are fed up, you’re too quick to jump people’s sh!t. He was agreeing with you.
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Old 02-07-2018, 12:34 PM
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Was told from a P2P guy from UA That the union went to the company to open early, and they agreed. Versus the theory of Scott Kirby coming to alpa say hey let's Open early so I can try to alter the scope relief. Not saying he won't try. Additionally he tried this at AA and failed. We have pilots that got furlough for over a decade and got stuck for years just like everybody else , tons of regional guys here as well . no way scope gets caved in on.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
Don't get too proud of facts there Mr 2018 4-delivery guy.
I'm pretty sure I caviated that with an I don't remember. But lets look to see what I'm talking about. Go back and read the 8Ks and 10Ks from about 2010 moving forward. Look at the delivery schedules.

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You're right. It was 7. I stand corrected.

The point again is that it changes frequently.

Perspective, again, how many aircraft are we getting this year?

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It's 10. Still taking additional aircraft. Not getting rid of planes. Not, stopping deliveries... TAKING(more or less than expected depending on perspective) deliveries. Which means, we are growing. So henceforth, not stagnant.

None of this changes the fact that we are in a labor dispute.

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Old 02-08-2018, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy View Post
Talked to by buddy over at United and he said they want to open up CBA talks early and many fear this to be the motivation (regional flying). Just sayin'.
None of which is fact, it's speculation. Just sayin.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand View Post
None of which is fact, it's speculation. Just sayin.

Not really.....

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Old 02-08-2018, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy View Post
I was referencing your "fears" comment and the "RJ flying" but you knew that. There's no dispute as to the early negotiations.
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