Can we get paid to fly on reserve?
Currently anything over 4:22 we fly we do it for $0.00/hour.

The executives and shareholders love to hear employees talk like that. It = more money for them to grab for themselves, while the company still decays either way. It's the way things are done now. Then when the company goes into a downturn inevitably again due to years of poor shortsighted decisions based on stock prices and equity payouts instead of long term company health, they will kick you in the nuts and demand to take even more back from you or the bankruptcy court will force it out of you.

I don't think any "long term" pilots want to harm the company due to a contract, but you better take your fair share while the getting is good or someone else certainly will take your share for you.

I would probably agree with you if we didn't live in a world where executives make 200-300X their average employee and decisions weren't made on short term stock price movement and performance based equity incentives being the primary motivation of the decision makers. Instead of long term company health being the priority.

I think “solid” refers to pay rates in DC’s eyes. He doesn’t strike me as caring about or even understanding QOL & work rule improvements, or there effect on our W2.

Thankfully your assumption is wrong. Dan has been at AA for 34 years. Of course he understands QOL Issues and their effect on w2. The ‘nAATive’ stereotype of LAA guys only caring about pay rates definitely cannot be used against him.

Industry leading pay, profit sharing equal to UA/DL, trip ownership/ improved pay for reassignments, fixes to LTD/STD and a host of other things are all thoroughly on his radar.

Now isn’t the time for our infighting to detract from getting us a much-improved contract.

Dan has been here for 34 years but has never experienced what narrow body pilots do today. He does seem to appreciate the career he has had but he ain’t doing what we are doing. Up until the late 1990’s it was 3 days on and 4 off. He lived in base and a junior one at that. He may understand what we do but he has never lived it.

Dan is a politician. He is going to tell you what you want to here. For instance video of him saying he will be fiscally conservative with our dues. From what I have heard it is worse than ever. I do not dislike Dan but he is an ass.

I actually agree with this in theory - however - this is a different time. We could pay for our dream contract with a quarter of stock buy backs. Doug has even said this openly. Even in this most recent ‘bad’ quarter - we are printing billions a year.


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Is this a joke? Topple the company? They are raking in billions.

You sound so weak and naive. Do you think if you signed a Mesa contract tomorrow that Parker would take those savings and roll them into shoring up the balance sheet? Hell no. It would be spent on share buybacks and executive compensation.

A major airline pilot should be similar to a commodity. Delta/UAL/AAL Pilots should all cost more or less the same. Somehow Parker can pay the same price for a barrel of oil as Delta. He can afford to buy jets just like delta. But he can’t afford to pay the same for his pilots? You’ve been brainwashed...I suggest you spend less time thinking about my pecker and more time contemplating your worth as a professional pilot.

US Airways had the lowest pilot costs amongst the majors for about 14 years. Did that translate into a powerhouse company?

One of the CLT reps is already gone and his replacement is the most junior pilot on the BOD. Elections underway for the fall with several junior FOs on the ballot and strong support for them from the FO side.