How so? I can tell PBS to build me a line based of 90 credit hours a month, and it will if I have the seniority to hold that. Doesn't take upper echelon seniority to do that either...just enough to be off the bottom of line holders. Plenty of guys here (YX) crediting >90 hours a month with 17 or more days off. Your crappy lines in a bid packet won't get you that without picking up OT on your very few off days. I've never understood the line bidding is better than PBS argument.

PBS needs good work rules to be good for the pilots. PBS with poor rules can be borderline abusive. RAH has good work rules so PBS has good pairings and builds efficient schedules. With our work rules, PBS for the mid level and below guys would absolutely suck (5 lost days a month with no min day guarantee, anyone?). So for us, line bidding is much better, because company tries to build lines up to at least the min guarantee value. So they mix up some of the trash with a few gems to bulk up the line credit.

If we had PBS, the senior guys would get the day turn pairings with 19 days off and 90+ hours of credit. The mid-senior pilots would get the 17-20 hour 4-day pairings. And the mid to junior guys would end up with all the lost day garbage, because all good pairings would've already been gone.

PBS takes the same sequence pairings that we have with line bidding. So you get the same credit each sequence so you'd have to work a lot more days to increase your credit. PBS also gets rid of transition, vacation, training and flight time conflicts so you lose out on pay from there while also taking away most open time so you lose the ability to pick up overtime. That's how you lose money.... there's a reason the company had a 5 million dollar price tag on it if we chose to say no to PBS.

Exactly. If we get PBS, we need some serious work rule improvements to come with it. With our current rules, PBS would be horrible for anyone but the few pilots at the top.

The company can drop PBS on us at anytime at this point.

It would have to go to a pilot vote, with the concession number readjusted. And they wouldn't push those concessions on us in this hiring environment. A little market downturn and pilots become a surplus again and I'm sure they would.

Mgt trolls starting PBS talk. PBS is a management tool, not pilot friendly. Ask the aa pilots
3 on 1 off 4 on 2 off, at least that's what the Boston guys get.
Feel free to find positive attributes to PBS, there are none, why because you need trip and duty rigs to start with and you have none and work rules other than far 117.

They can't just drop it on us. There is an LOA that outlines the process if they want to implement it.

It's already in the contract. If the company wants PBS then they’ll get PBS. If the pilots say no, we aren’t doing it, then they owe the company millions in cost savings every year. I can guess what LOA the company would love to have back as a price tag. PBS won’t magically fix all of the issues. The flight file is inherently weak due to the lack of midday turns in multiple hubs. People talk of trip rigs, and duty rigs, min day credit like it’s something that just appears. The company and the union just went through hell. I’m sure they feel like a couple who just got a divorce and are in no mood to talk anymore about who keeps the commemorative dinnerware.

If they wanted it they would get it as we couldn’t afford nor want to give up more concessions.

I do happen to agree that it wouldn’t serve them well right now but my point still holds true.