My point is that they're not firing the white guys either... They need every person willing to work there to complete training because nobody wants to work there. I agree 100% that it is easier to fire a white male and that isn't right.

KP?

Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaa

Yup.
Nice girl, I flew a few trips with her.

Obviously something is wrong if just omitting information from your application can hide a history of training failures. This guy apparently failed his way through four regionals (and four different planes) in six years. I guess it’s still up to an airline if they want to go for it, but it’s ridiculous that an applicant can apparently hide that information.

That wouldn't work at other airlines. Most of us can think of sitting at a regional, watching a guy get pulled out of an indoc. class who failed to disclose something. There was a failure of due diligence on Atlas' part.

I'm just shocked that this is how PRIA works. I guess I'm naive or something but while completing PRIA docs for my many airline interviews I always assumed the airlines could see every airline you'd worked for.

Or at least they could see every airline you'd had some kind of checking event for, but they couldn't see how your training went at those airlines (until you sent them the PRIA docs). So if you didn't put whatever airlines you'd worked for on PRIA docs you were automatically hiding something and hosed.

Or maybe that's how it works at airlines that bother to do any kind of actual checking themselves.

Oh and who thinks Atlas would have still hired this guy even if they'd know his full airline history?

I don't think anyone has mentioned that we are only required to fill out PRIA paperwork going back five years. Since this guy was at Air Whisky and CommutAir back in 2011, I can see why he wouldn't have filled out the PRIA paperwork. I was in 2 interviews just over a year ago, and we were instructed only to fill out a PRIA form for each airline within the last five years. I had a CFII failure as well as a 121 failure back in 2004 and 2007, so naturally I did as instructed. My 121 failure would have never came up. Of course, the good pilot I am, they were all listed on my application with my employer.

Perhaps PRIA records should go back much farther if not your entire career? Truckers have better records kept from the DOT.

I got the FAA to send me all my records about five years ago and it has everything in it. It took about six weeks to get though. I just checked my PRD and nothing is listed on there.

PRIA and FOIA will catch things even if you omit them from your application. This is actually why DB was asked if she also did a FOIA check. Again, look at the regionals that manage to send guys home from indoc. who misrepresent themselves.

The problem is that the hiring airline actually has to read the materials they receive. In our case, for example, we received the FO's records from Mesa. We just didn't open the emails. So even when we received information about a guy, we acted like he had no negative training history.

Don't forget Atlas also requires a full FBI background check to get hired (for DOD contracts). They would of known about every airline even the ones not disclosed on a PRIA from the IRS paper trail.

Atlas just didn't care.

Yes, it ultimately is on the airline to catch the errors. What I would suggest is some type of info handed to the FAA, possibly through de-ident process like FOQUA, which could track certain types of issues. If an airline is caught routinely missing things, like hiring guys without the right certs, the airline should face some sort of discipline.

At my previous regional I believe it was a one-off. At other airlines it is sounding like a matter of routine. I’m not all that comfortable with FAA tracking individual applicants and pilots but I would possibly be ok with pressure on airlines to do their homework and ensure their hiring qualified individuals. I guess the try with the current system, must need some tweaking.