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12-22-2019 | 01:06 PM
#81
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12-22-2019 | 03:30 PM
#82
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I’ll second that I didn’t see anywhere in there that he was part of Gulfstream.
12-22-2019 | 06:01 PM
#83
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12-22-2019 | 06:14 PM
#84
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From: Paahlot
I wouldn’t really count Gulfstream as reportable “employment” anyway as it was more of a training organization with a 121(135?) certificate.
Training from zero and a year right seat as “practical” experience.
I mean you paid for the seat then received an hourly right?
Training from zero and a year right seat as “practical” experience.
I mean you paid for the seat then received an hourly right?
12-23-2019 | 01:01 AM
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It does not say on there, he also resigned from Colgan. Atlas said they were unaware of his work history with Air Wisconsin or Commutair, I'm guessing because he "resigned" instead of officially failed out. Atlas said they would not of hired him had they known. He also lied about his failures on his employment application
Also after his first failure at upgrade at Mesa, he either sued or threatened to sue for discrimination so they gave him a second chance, which he failed again.
Atlas attempted to terminate him, he sued for racial discrimination again, and retained his job.
Also after his first failure at upgrade at Mesa, he either sued or threatened to sue for discrimination so they gave him a second chance, which he failed again.
Atlas attempted to terminate him, he sued for racial discrimination again, and retained his job.
12-23-2019 | 12:20 PM
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American 587
Corporate 5966
-Pinnacle 3701
-Comair 5191
-Colgan 3407
FedEx 80
UPS 1354
-Atlas 3591
Still, 4 out of 8 crashes (or even 4 out of 16 pilots involved in those crashes) is a concerning statistic. Anyone have the numbers on Gulfrstream alumni vs non-Alumni in the 121 world? This would suggest that either ~20% of airline pilots have been through Gulfstream or that they are statistically more likely to be in an accident.
**Certain non-fatal pilot-error accidents (like PSA 2495) should probably be included if non-pilot factors (recently installed EMAS) narrowly prevented fatalities.
Last edited by uboatdriver; 12-23-2019 at 12:30 PM. Reason: Removed WN1248. Although pilot-error and fatal, this accident can be better categorized as a slick runway excursion, particularly due to the lack of onboard fatalities.
12-23-2019 | 01:01 PM
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From: Pipers!
I count more than 5 fatal** pilot-error crashes since 9/11.
American 587
Corporate 5966
-Pinnacle 3701
-Comair 5191
-Colgan 3407
FedEx 80
UPS 1354
-Atlas 3591
Still, 4 out of 8 crashes (or even 4 out of 16 pilots involved in those crashes) is a concerning statistic. Anyone have the numbers on Gulfrstream alumni vs non-Alumni in the 121 world? This would suggest that either ~20% of airline pilots have been through Gulfstream or that they are statistically more likely to be in an accident.
**Certain non-fatal pilot-error accidents (like PSA 2495) should probably be included if non-pilot factors (recently installed EMAS) narrowly prevented fatalities.
American 587
Corporate 5966
-Pinnacle 3701
-Comair 5191
-Colgan 3407
FedEx 80
UPS 1354
-Atlas 3591
Still, 4 out of 8 crashes (or even 4 out of 16 pilots involved in those crashes) is a concerning statistic. Anyone have the numbers on Gulfrstream alumni vs non-Alumni in the 121 world? This would suggest that either ~20% of airline pilots have been through Gulfstream or that they are statistically more likely to be in an accident.
**Certain non-fatal pilot-error accidents (like PSA 2495) should probably be included if non-pilot factors (recently installed EMAS) narrowly prevented fatalities.
https://www.newscentermaine.com/mobi...1-d194e3766913
12-23-2019 | 01:28 PM
#90
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I was going to include 4933 because it is so concerning. I ended leaving it out because it’s not so obvious to the untrained eye. That’s said, I should have left it in...this is a pilot forum.
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