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Quote: As a VEOP with a 9/1/2021 date I have been trying to back off posting my opinion on the issues that will be affecting the Delta Pilots after I am officially retired.

For all the previously stated reasons I will be voting for 20-04. IMO it’s the right thing to do.

Denny
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Quote: We still want to hear your opinions!!
Opinions are like a******s..........and I are one!!!

Denny
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Quote: affected pilots would have been paid more if voting closed 11/30...

As one of the 1,7xx, I couldn’t care less about the little bit of extra money. I think I speak for most of us...we just want some finality.

As far as my opinion on the 30hrs...I can say I wasn’t expecting it. Didn’t think there was any way the NC would come up with something palatable enough to appease the collective group.

I think they did a fantastic job of coming up with something that gets us some QoL enhancements while keeping a contract worth coming back to, and at the same time, helps pilots like me make ends meet. Honestly, that’s what this does. Between the 30 hours and whatever work I can find, I can pay my bills without amassing debt, and still have some presents under the tree next month for the kids. For that, I will be beyond grateful should 20-04 pass.

Trust me when I say, I’ll be a much happier Widget when I finally do come back, something I think the company realized in making this deal. Hats off to the NC.
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Quote: As one of the 1,7xx, I couldn’t care less about the little bit of extra money. I think I speak for most of us...we just want some finality.

As far as my opinion on the 30hrs...I can say I wasn’t expecting it. Didn’t think there was any way the NC would come up with something palatable enough to appease the collective group.

I think they did a fantastic job of coming up with something that gets us some QoL enhancements while keeping a contract worth coming back to, and at the same time, helps pilots like me make ends meet. Honestly, that’s what this does. Between the 30 hours and whatever work I can find, I can pay my bills without amassing debt, and still have some presents under the tree next month for the kids. For that, I will be beyond grateful should 20-04 pass.

Trust me when I say, I’ll be a much happier Widget when I finally do come back, something I think the company realized in making this deal. Hats off to the NC.
I'm voting for it. This is only my second yes vote. The first was our current PWA. The retro check was too much to pass up. I don't believe in job sharing, but I'm also burnt out from the last couple years. I'm good with flying 75 hours going forward. The fact that it gives would-be furloughed pilots 30 hours and let's them keep benefits is an added bonus.

if I'm voting yes, I'm guessing this passes easily.
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Para 7.C. Does this mean if Delta has a crappy Jan/feb, furloughs start 1 March?

Also seems to be a lot of merger/takeover language in there. Is there something else we should know?!?
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Quote: Para 7.C. Does this mean if Delta has a crappy Jan/feb, furloughs start 1 March?

Also seems to be a lot of merger/takeover language in there. Is there something else we should know?!?
Either they have a merger plan in place or someone thought a couple steps ahead. Maybe it’s there to prevent the “I didn’t think they would do that!” response.
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Quote: Para 7.C. Does this mean if Delta has a crappy Jan/feb, furloughs start 1 March?

Also seems to be a lot of merger/takeover language in there. Is there something else we should know?!?
I'd say only way that happens is if Biden wins and figures out a way to lock down whole country like he said he would. That being said, once that happens I think the airline industry as a whole goes out of business and resets with new companies.
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Quote: ....That being said, once that happens I think the airline industry as a whole goes out of business and resets with new companies.
That’s ludicrous. Won’t happen to legacy or large regionals like Spirit or Jetblue either. It’s not because of a broken business model. That’s why companies liquidate. The whole system (under your scenario) goes down.

Will not happen. If there’s a massive shutdown there will be massive bailout. Now years later the fallout from idiotic spending could drive many into the dirt due to massive inflation and massive unemployment. But not now.
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Quote: We still want to hear your opinions!!
Only if it echoes my opinion.
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