Those are good examples of why it is still a good idea to ask questions when something seems fishy. Years ago we (ALPA) got a pilot pay protected for a WS that went to a junior guy that he should have been awarded. Reason: a software error didn't even show him as legal for the trip, even though he was. Company stonewalled for awhile but finally paid the pilot and fixed the issue.

But in this instance and yours, it was errors in the implementation, not the correct contractual language, that caused the faulty denials.

The bolded part ONLY applies when the reserves available (A) is exactly the same as reserves required (R), not when the numbers add up to the same. I stand by what I said earlier. Once A is less than R, you have to do the math.

That was a mistake on my part to quote that language (you are correct) but this language right after that certainly applies: All emphasis items are mine, to reiterate:

Only the day(s) on which a pilot will be off if the requested transaction is awarded (Day(s) to Be Dropped), and only the day(s) on which a pilot will be working if the requested transaction is awarded (Day(s) to Be Added) are considered. Overlapping days in a SWP or X-day move transaction (days on which a pilot will be working either way) are not considered for purposes of reserves coverage.

I yield...

Resurrecting this thread...

I have a day for day swap request in. I called scheduling to ask if it would get processed and they said no. Their reason was reserve coverage was not adequate.

I’ve read through this entire thread, the SRH and PWA. I still don’t understand if my swap will be granted. It doesn’t violate any of the things herk mentioned. It literally covers the exact same days. The only question would be if MEX is a SAQ field and would require me to stay on it. I have never been there and just looked in the SAQ section of aerodocs and doesn’t look like it requires any special training.

Any bets on if my swap gets awarded? I’ll gladly let anyone that has commented here with personal experience look at my schedule and see if it’s legit. Just shoot me a PM.

23.H.5.g-You can’t drop a trip within 96 hours if a LCP/LVP has been assigned to your trip. You do have to have adult supervision in and out of MEX your first time. (AM 9.1.1.7, level 2)

Im seeing this as a Capt requirement but not an FO. The Capt I’m with is not a LCP. At least not designated as such on the rotation.

Sorry, assumed you were a captain! I revise my answer to I have no idea!

It worked! Reserve days were 20+ required and 0 available for both days (bigger issues to discuss
there) but the trip foot prints fell exactly inside of the same days. I have some faith restored in our system. After reading this thread over again after putting the swap in I put my odds about 50/50 of it working.

Not sure if this helps, but if the days both negative, but are "less bad" on the day you are wanting to move (thus leaving the company with a less bad situation), the move will usually go though. If the days are the same, it's a crap shoot, but apparently worked for you. Always good to have data points...