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forgot to bid , 07-06-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sink r8

Fine. I hope it will help.

yeah me too.

#104972

MrBojangles , 07-06-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Could it be better for our new hires? Of course, but lets remember a few things. First, with over 15K apps on file in 2008 no one was going to turn down a DAL job over crappy first year pay or having to scout out a crash pad for four weeks of their 30+ year career. No one. It is not the best choice, but not one that would make someone decline a position. Not at CAL not having health insurance and crappy pay for six months and a year respectively. I know that I chose DAL over them, but that was not the only reason. Some would not even apply to them for that item.

First year pay stunk. I made 22K in eight months. I made over double that in three months at my previous job. I knew it was going to be a significant change and I planned accordingly. Being at the house with a new born and in new hire training was stressful, but again, better than paying for a hotel or crash pad. It was a few weeks out of my life. Was it most desired? Nope, but worth the prize which was a job at the premier global airline.

I have more than made up for this pay and lack of hotel in my time here. Most of you would agree.

If we want it fixed, we should make it a priority, but I highly doubt that most will be willing to make it a top priority. If anyone decides not to take a DAL job because of it, they are crazy.

I agree 100%. I'm not saying I'd give up my dream job just because I have to pay for a hotel, but it was definitely an additional stress to some of the people in my class.

#104973

MrBojangles , 07-06-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragtop Day

We can still bank, but you can only deposit any credit above 80 hours (up to 20 hrs/mo., +60 hrs total). Since the max rsv guarantee is 80 hrs, you will not be able to bank unless you GS or fly your butt off.

Transactions must be requested before the last day of the month, so if you are going to be close don't wait around to see what the final credit number is. You can request "in the blind" meaning you can tell the computer you want to deposit 5 hours, if you only credit 82.5, the bank will deposit 2.5 hours and disregard the rest.

If you are negative, the computer will automatically take up to 5 hours per month over 80 until you are back to 0.

For reference it is Sec. 12 O.

Dumb question here, but if I bank 5 hours at my pay level now and withdraw it a few years later at my higher pay rate, they pay out at the new level, right? New to the credit bank here.

#104974

Ragtop Day , 07-06-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBojangles

Dumb question here, but if I bank 5 hours at my pay level now and withdraw it a few years later at my higher pay rate, they pay out at the new level, right? New to the credit bank here.

Yes that is correct. The game is to bank the max at a low rate (before upgrade or equipment change) and withdraw at the high rate. You can also work it in reverse before a displacement--withdraw to -30 at the high rate and replenish at the lower rate.

#104975

acl65pilot , 07-06-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

I never thought about this, I'm going to go look it up.

Okay... if you have not finished your initial OE then you are an entry level pilot. But you're given a seniority number on day 1 and the PWA governs how that seniority number is assigned. But if I remember right the union cannot represent you until you are finished.

Hmmm. Well my guess is day 1 if your seniority number is assigned on day 1 then you meet the definition of a pilot.

Did I get it right?

When do you get transitioned to "flight pay?" Is it retro to a point or event?

#104976

forgot to bid , 07-06-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

When do you get transitioned to "flight pay?" Is it retro to a point or event?

You transition to flight pay status when you get an “OK” on the schedule upon completion of IOE.

But did we change how the salary as paid as current and the flight pay in arrears when we transitioned the end of month pay?

Let me go look.

#104977

BlueMoon , 07-06-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone

As long as people are willing to pay for their hotels, Delta will not. Once interviews begin and pilot do not show or Delta has issues filling classes; you might see paid-for hotels.

TEN

Pretty much. This happened at numerous regionals in 2008. We saw hotels in training, pay in training increase, and signing bonuses. I'm at a regional that doesn't provide hotel during training and from talking to pilots, I know it adversely effects the the recruiting, but that is apples to oranges.

Delta won't have to increase new-hire qol for a very long time.

#104978

acl65pilot , 07-06-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

That is when your status is defined per the PWA, but there is another hurdle that we all must cross; First revenue flight.

#104979

Check Essential , 07-06-2012 01:32 PM

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A good sign:
Fly on the wall at a bar room bull session on layover with several senior captains and they were discussing the early out thing.
They think the numbers look pretty good. Consensus was that nwa guys with DB pensions will take the deal in large numbers. It would be foolish to pass it up. Many dal types will jump on it as well.
Looks like the number of takers may come in on the high side of expectations.

#104980

Elvis90 , 07-06-2012 01:46 PM

On Reserve

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Originally Posted by Check Essential

Job security! Let the hiring begin. Gee, I might even have a choice in a future AE.