The contract doesn't specifically give a nine hour uncontactable window for long calls - it's more of an implied thing. What it does say though, is that a long call pilot does not have to acknowledge an assignment until 3 hours prior to report. Starting next month, if you wait until you are within 10 hours of report (but more than 3) to acknowledge your assignment, you are no longer legal to fly the trip. BUT, you are still well within the your contractual rights - discipline wise, the company cannot do thing to you. And, as long as you don't actually fly the trip, the FAA could care less.

The company cannot ignore our contract in this case nor can they just unilaterally impose a two hour acknowledgement window - they are just hoping that as a pilot group we cooperate. Remember they cannot require you do something that is A. Illegal and B. Not in our contract.

Agree. You could now have short call within long call, and can never be out of contact.


I'm curious what you think some of those possible fixes are that would be beneficial to reserve pilots.


On another note I am also curious if the union has polled anybody on what we would like to "give up" for Part 117 changes?

<<<<Im curious what you think some of those possible fixes are that would be beneficial to reserve pilots.>>>>

As a line pilot, I can only go off of anecdotal info and I have not been polled, so I have no idea if they are asking about this or what the majority sees as desirable.

For me, it must start with ADG 5:15 for all pilots and then and only then, would I start looking at 16 hour long call in exchange for a 5 hour response time.

That is just an example, I am sure the smart guys have many more ways to skin the cat and pilot desires to support it.

Got to ride on a 900 today, pretty spiffy, people laugh their a----s off at the safety video. On flare, doesn't seem like there is much to work with. [Wing loading?] Needs some mood music with the blue lights.

Nice find. Thanks.

The SEC Championship game is a shoot out right now!

SEC football= no defense





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Great SEC Championship game going on. Good 117 thing is you won't be changed out of a SC rest into a flight and lose the SC credit now I think but I do anticipate being on all 7 SCs every month.

I think you're absolutely right.

2 comments:

1. When did sailingfun learn to use paragraphs and not include 8 grammatical errors each sentence?

2. Did someone really say they don't like the downtown clt layover? That has everything! Good food, good running, good workout facility, safe, and most importantly...good drinking.

That JFK train thing is ridonkulous. Glad to be away from bedbug city, though. I'm also glad for the relief given on not going all the way downtown for 12 or 13 hours. As an aside, we should always be downtown in BOS. The long layover hotel is definitely quicker to get to than the short.

I agree 100%. We will just fire up the mighty DALPA legal team and ..............................., on second thought, were screwed.


What was it we used to say in the Navy, something like, "A failure to prudently plan on your (DAL) part does not constitute an emergency on our (Pilots) part.

There is no way, no way, guys are going to always respond within a few hours - the company better start thinking up a plan B ASAP.

Either that or carry enough reserves to put enough guys on SC everyday.

Scoop