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Quote: What happened to individual responsibility? The "banks" didn't force jackasses to sign, did they?
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You took out a loan you can't afford, you pay it back. I don't care if you have to pawn your Xbox 360, imitation Rolex, and your daughter's autographed Justin Beiber poster. Turn in your leased BMW and get a Kia. You signed, you pay.



And the highly educated, trained and compensated 'experts' who are supposed to investigate and verify loan applications then approve said loans to people who, by long-held banking and loan practices can not reasonably be expected to re-pay those loans.

If you give people money, under the above conditions...which did occur, it's called............... A GIFT.

The banks, Fannie and Freddie Mae, etc... screwed up and should have paid the price, with NO bailout, IMMHO.

(If you haven't already watched 'Too Big to Fail,' do watch. You'll get more than mad. )
Quote: You really don't want individual pilots cutting deals with the company. In the end everyone is better served if the contract is followed. What you essentially said was I would like to stay in my category and am willing to fly the aircraft for less then my fellow pilots. You are bidding your pay rate.
You also create a issue that you might be senior to other pilots in the category. Your could be taking flying that belongs to them. Someone might very well file a grievance and the company is sure to loose. Neither the company or ALPA want to go down this route.
The company does have some contractual options to bypass pilots moving up with limited time left. I don't however believe any of those options apply to moving down. There were only 6 mandatory displacements off the 73N in the last bid. There were not a huge number of pilots involved.
Why it is that way is not the point. Unfortunately, common sense does not often apply and if they make exceptions for this (that makes sense) then when do you stop. It sucks for you but maybe (in some small print somewhere) it should be fixed. Anyone with less than ???? doesn't have to be MD'd. Probably way below noise level compared to all the major priorities to be fixed with this contract.
Quote: where do you get this stuff? There is no plan to close the ATL 777 base.
Ask Scambo.
Quote: where do you get this stuff? There is no plan to close the ATL 777 base.

Hey, it's a Flight Attendant Rumor, which means it's true!


All 777 flying will be moved to LAX and MCO.


It's just that nobody in Marketing has dictated the closure to the Mushrooms in the Flight Ops. Dept... yet.

The bid will be out in 4-6 weeks.

Oh, and the 5 year plan changes every 3 weeks.

SSDD
Quote: Hey, it's a Flight Attendant Rumor, which means it's true!


All 777 flying will be moved to LAX and MCO.


It's just that nobody in Marketing has dictated the closure to the Mushrooms in the Flight Ops. Dept... yet.

The bid will be out in 4-6 weeks.

Oh, and the 5 year plan changes every 3 weeks.

SSDD

I can tell ya, I did not hear it from any FA's. but you know, they seem to know more than the average pilot.

I heard this a while back and then a few of the LCA's that I have flown with have stated such. Of course the five year plan changes every two weeks.....
ACL,
I don't doubt ATL 777 might move out completely, but couldn't the size of ATL 777 and DTW 777 be flipped vs closing ATL 777?

I ask, because what else would do a route like ATL-NRT?

FWIW 777 routes (by my best count, I might be missing some):

ATL-DTW
ATL-LAX
ATL-DXB
ATL-JNB
ATL-NRT

DTW-ICN
DTW-PVG
DTW-PEK
DTW-HKG

NRT-HKG
NRT-SIN
NRT-TPE
NRT-ATL
NRT-MSP

MSP-NRT

LAX-SYD
Quote: Kind of wonder if they are giving a gentle nudge towards retirement ... not that it is personal, when the junior guys were asking about leaves to avoid displacement the CPO stated an 12 to 18 month request would likely be accepted.

Furloughing has its own costs, but there is little doubt we are overstaffed right now.
Just look at us lowly 88B's in Atl, reserves required during the week are 20 and each day next week there are 80 on reserve! 80! why do we need 4 times the amount required?!?
Quote: Just look at us lowly 88B's in Atl, reserves required during the week are 20 and each day next week there are 80 on reserve! 80! why do we need 4 times the amount required?!?
For the LGA slot swap expansion.

Now lets get rid of trip parking and then re-rack staffing levels.

Trip Parking:


Also if we furlough and 2 years is the minimum amount of time required to furlough then given retirements how long will we really end up being overstaffed. And we also have a lot of training coming with all of these bids, as we realign and move equipment and close bases and so on, are we really overstaffed enough to furlough for 2 years?
Think I saw that Jan would have the highest YOY schedule cut. Since we staff for the summer, it stands to reason that this month we will have the least amount of open time and the highest number of couch potatoes (RSV bubbas and bubbettes).
Quote: Just look at us lowly 88B's in Atl, reserves required during the week are 20 and each day next week there are 80 on reserve! 80! why do we need 4 times the amount required?!?
No we don't, the alternative is to furlough those pilots. Is that what you really want? Be thankful that a foresighted individual realized the best method to prevent furloughs was via a layered approach. Layering in economic penalties to the company has served us very well since we got away from traditional no furlough clauses.
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