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#3381

Hovernut , 07-28-2015 01:36 PM

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Wonder if he called the Duty Pilot when he landed?

#3382

rokgpsman , 07-28-2015 02:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sliceback

When the conversation was taking place they hadn't used up their 45 minutes if gas. So it appears that they were, for some unknown reason, already behind on gas OR they pulled the 'emergency' card to avoid having to land at a divert field. Both potential actions require a serious investigation by the FAA. You can't just declare an emergency, and say you're running out of gas, in order to avoid diverting.

CA maybe had a nice Fargo honey waiting for him.

Here's a CBS News story on the incident:
http://www.cbsnews.com/live/video/ar...control-tower/

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#3383

BigTime , 07-28-2015 02:38 PM

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Has anybody mentioned that this is the very same guy who ordered the MD-80 minimum landing fuel to be lowered from 6000 lbs to 5000 lbs a couple years ago?
Now he knows why all the pilots were complaining about it.

#3384

501D22G , 07-28-2015 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GordoCooper

§121.537 Responsibility for operational control: Supplemental operations.

(b) The pilot in command and the director of operations are jointly responsible for the initiation, continuation, diversion, and termination of a flight in compliance with this chapter and the operations specifications. The director of operations may delegate the functions for the initiation, continuation, diversion, and termination of a flight but he may not delegate the responsibility for those functions.

(c) The director of operations is responsible for cancelling, diverting, or delaying a flight if in his opinion or the opinion of the pilot in command the flight cannot operate or continue to operate safely as planned or released. The director of operations is responsible for assuring that each flight is monitored with respect to at least the following3) Any known conditions that may adversely affect the safety of flight.
(e) Each pilot in command of an aircraft is responsible for the preflight planning and the operation of the flight in compliance with this chapter and the operations specifications.

Lets see: conflict of interest here? VP/Director of Ops = PIC. But wait; Dispatch and Chief Pilot report to VP.

Certainly the FAA will finally step in, right? The issue here is that definite and clear violations occurred. The CFR and GOM do NOT allow delegation of ultimate responsibility(read para b.) GB can't pass this down to anyone per regulatory guidance. This means dispatch is safe; and once again......GB must face either FAA enforcement action, or resign.

So Allegiant is a 121 supplemental? If so, dispatch could never really take the fall for this deal... it's always the DO and PIC

who just so happen to be the same person?

I think my mind just went full potato.

#3385

GordoCooper , 07-28-2015 04:54 PM

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Im sorry....I thought they were on an AAY Charter flight! Was this a normally scheduled flight? Or a typical AAY Charter? If it was a scheduled pax flight, I'll quote you the other reg that has the non-delegated responsibility of the Director of Ops/VP! Either way, GB cant point the finger on this one. The buck stops with him.

#3386

EngFail , 07-28-2015 05:20 PM

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A good day for Allegiant pilots. About a platoon and half sized pilot group marched on vegas headquarters. Wonder how many under wear changes took place behind that glass window lol.

Hopefully the faa will start to get serious about where the real problems are in this company. Starting and ending with g4 management.

Potential new hires hope you’re listening. You are about to enter the lions den. This management takes no prisoners. Screw up just that much and termination, violation; viewable pria disciplinary action, training failures or worse. All brought to you by one of the most hypocritical management teams around. Enjoy…

#3387

gunner , 07-28-2015 07:40 PM

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FAA opens investigation

FAA investigating Allegiant Air passenger jet that nearly ran out of fuel | Fox News

#3388

ValuGiant , 07-28-2015 07:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GordoCooper

It was a normally scheduled flight. The flight number 426 is used multiple times every week for flights from LAS-FAR.

#3389

rokgpsman , 07-28-2015 08:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GordoCooper

The last time I read an Allegiant Annual Report I think they said they would be ceasing charter flights. They need every working airplane and available flight crew to fly all of the regular scheduled flights, they are constantly adding new cities to shear sheep in.

#3390

planejay , 07-28-2015 08:17 PM

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National media picking up the story on this incident puts a big smile on my face