[QUOTE=P-3Bubba;1509847]Osama Bin Laden was never an airline CEO, however he would fit in nicely. Bin Laden drove the legacies to their knees and JetBlue timed it's birth at the right time. It's better to be lucky than good.

All I pointed out is there is Jetblue spin and then there is reality.

The analyst are unhappy with the airlines performance. Why, because we lag in most measurable categories. Jetblue spins the growth when in reality we net the same amount of AC. Jetblue pilots read a Jetblue press release and take it at face value. That is why we are in the hole that we are in. Waiting for industry standard raises since 2009.
Management is going to do whatever it wants but to spew managements propaganda without knowing both sides simply continues the sad narrative that has become this pilot group.

You get paid 70 hours per month until you are not qualified in seat.
I interpret that equates to 3 months.

There is no I told you so. With the newest fleet, most productive pilot group and lowest cost Jetblue should not miss estimates. Stock price, going forward, will have a tremendous amount to with when Jetblue is involved in a T/E. The analyst do not believe in this management team and their opinions reflect so.
Just because Jetblue told you they did well doesn't necessarily mean Wall Street agrees. Whether Jetblue meets or misses estimates management does a tremendous job of convincing the likes of the feeble minded that its operation is second to none. Meanwhile the RASM doesn't increase largely due to poor management in running the operation. Those are the facts. Nothing negative.
Converting options doesn't make this management team as smart as you think. Rather than focusing on the operation Jetblue still spends considerable effort trying to convince Wall Street and the employee groups that NPS is the great derterminator of Jetblues future success. Wall Street doesn't buy it. Somehow they have figured out NPS is tied more to Jetblue management bonuses than RASM.

I read it the same. However there is an alternate interpretation that's coming from our commanders. Read my post as very sarcastic.

Is this a legit quote? I wasn't able to listen to the Q3 conference call.

Yes. They have reiterated that message for almost a year now at each analyst call.

David Barger - Co-Founder, Chief Executive officer, President, Director and Member of Airline Safety Committee
Sure, more than happy to. It's -- Helane, no, we believe that, really, the -- when we look at attraction, really, of pilots, we don't believe that's an issue, right. As we look at longer term, and again, Mark commented on it, you look at retaining pilots, right, that's the issue. I think we're well positioned. Again, at the number of applicants that we're seeing and prospective applicants, we feel good about that. We just want to make sure that we're retaining the pilot workforce.

"We are committed to paying pilot peer wages, and we are currently lagging that"

Mark Powers


All depends on how you look at things.

This is pure uneducated speculation, no basis for merit.

Paraphrased. But Yea. It's accurate. I believe the words were no problem with attraction, but retention is the issue.... I'd have to read the transcript.

I think they're worried about massive churn on the bottom. There will be some from top to bottom, but I'm thinkin the bottom 1000 are going to shuffle hard. IMO