Components of company's proposal to ENY MEC - Page 6

#51

Maverick , 10-30-2014 02:29 PM

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anything that doesnt have hard seniority numbers for all envoy pilots is a no vote for me. 14 plus years and almost everyone in my seniority feels the same. they can keep their shiny new planes. I know its the way the chips fell, but when i signed up for this rodeo I was supposed to get my actual seniority number when I upgraded. I'm tired of seeing 27 yr old coffee getters getting hired. I guarantee their resume looks nothing like mine.

#52

JohnnyDingus , 10-30-2014 02:34 PM

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Components of company's proposal to ENY MEC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick

Maybe your attitude and personality is holding you back. What makes you entitled to the position more than any other qualified pilot?

#53

eaglefly , 10-30-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by publicphone

-10 year duration
5 year amendment round must be cost neutral

-Fleet Guarantee includes 130 aircraft

-Pay Increases of 1% per year wage increase

-$10,000 Signing Bonus

-Eliminate Profit Sharing

-Pay Caps:
12/4 caps apply beginning with delivery of first EMB-175
Relief on caps if AA fails to flow through minimum number of pilots

-Per Diem increases:
Jan 1, 2015- $1.85
Jan 1, 2019- $1.90
Jan 1, 2021-$1.95

-Medical Contributions will increases:
2015-31%
2016-32%
2017-33%
2018-34%
2019-35%

-Flow Through:
824: Flow through minimum increased to 30 per month
Protected Pilots: Minimum raised to increase to 50% of AA classes
Pilots Hired after October, 2011 will have flow through rights

Well, the feeble pay raises will be more then canceled by insurance premium increases. Still has B-scale. The remaining 400 or so 824's go in the next 12 months (provided AA is running classes). The PP's get 50% (again, provided AA is running classes). 5 cent per diem increases ? ........please. Signing bonus is heavily taxed and only for first year income. Flying new, larger aircraft for essentially less.

Boy.......if this is the offer, it doesn't seem much different then the past one and is essentially empty of meaningful improvements. Of course, I understand many more are frightened, so perhaps it's time to give in ?

Good luck.

#54

Bzzt , 10-30-2014 03:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglefly

It's not ideal, nothing will be at this point. Healthcare costs will rose regardless as they are in every other industry, thanks ObamaCare.

#55

AdiosMikeFox , 10-30-2014 05:02 PM

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Components of company's proposal to ENY MEC

Note from another board, stated by a union member (paraphrased) -

Shut the F up, stop negotiating in public. Any leaks of information are deliberate by the company to gauge the lowest bar. Do not engage the people trying to bend over for a deal, or the burn it down crowd.

Edit: by me - remember which screen names are the leaks. Company men.

#56

maveric311 , 10-30-2014 06:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bzzt

This decision doesn't affect me at all, it does however affect you and your coworkers. It's sad you're so willing to throw away your career because you're angry at the company and unwilling to accept the economic reality of your situation. I sincerely hope that when it comes time to vote on this you consider the coworkers who you're screwing over so you can stick it to the man and make some pointless moral stand.

Well said.

#57

Nevets , 10-30-2014 06:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bzzt

It's not ideal, nothing will be at this point. Healthcare costs will rose regardless as they are in every other industry, thanks ObamaCare.

Yes, healthcare costs may increase. But why would you voluntarily increase your share of the premiums on top of the increase of the healthcare costs? If anything, you guys should be negotiating LOWER insurance costs because of increase healthcare costs.

#58

stanherman , 10-30-2014 06:42 PM

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Hi Jerry!

Hi Doug!

Hi Intern who was probably assigned to this thread by management!

#59

eaglefly , 10-30-2014 07:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bzzt

It's not ideal, nothing will be at this point. Healthcare costs will rose regardless as they are in every other industry, thanks ObamaCare.

You probably paid twice what you should have for your last car, or........you and that bow legged maverick character are Glass's stooges.

If you're really Envoy pilots, please stay away from AA. We don't need or want you.

#60

flyprdu , 10-30-2014 07:28 PM

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There is no reason in this volatile industry to EVER sign a 10 year deal. You are chaining yourself to servitude if you allow such a long duration.