In PHX, yes.

Is this your first rodeo?

True, but the problem is the P3 tend to be swapped to daytime flying if they bid more than 2 days in a row to work... If scheduling would honor contact times (and the associated duty periods) then I would have no problem with a clause that says if you bid P3 you must have 3 day stretches minimum... That's not what we are getting here. I was looking for day one protections (no more calling a P2 on Friday to assign a 6:30 am Monday report for flying, that's what long call should be for) and no more swapping contact times around ( putting the P3 on day flying just to then call the P1 to put back to rest and fly a CDO that night because they already burned the P3 coverage the prior night)

Then lets get rid of P3 and CDO lines all together... After all why should a CDO lineholder fly 40 hours but get paid 75??? Heck, why have guarantee at all then? Let's just get paid for actual block only... If you are a line holder bidding max days off and only block 68 hours, get 68 hours pay... If you are a reserve and only fly 5 hours.. 5 hour pay, how's that company man?

There is a difference between someone being available and willing to do the job for the company, and someone who does everything possible to not work. One is worth 75 hours the other is worthless. The company wants to make the mistake of hiring the worthless individuals a little less painful by reducing the amount they can hide from work. Yes, I do believe if you intentionally bid for a line that gives you less than 75 hours you shouldn't get the guarantee, you should get paid for what you bid. If you are a reserve guy who bids to fly and then bids anything besides last out you should get the guarantee. Some guy who bids last out, P3, last out, and 2 on 1 off has earned his actual credit and that's what he should get.

So how about CNO? Should they get paid less too?

Have you seen those lines? Those guys should get 80 hours. A CNO is the worst of both the worlds. You get some set flying you can't swap and a whole bunch of reserve. Why anyone would bid that I don't know, and obviously the company finds it useful.

If you're stuck on reserve otherwise, its not bad. An extra day off and every period of days is commutable. If you can hold CDO's, there's no reason to bid CNO, unless you need the 3 GDO, but otherwise, if your options are non-commutable P1 versus CNO, I know which route I go.

I just learned that SKW has opened in ATL. Does anyone have any info on this? First DTW, now ATL.

I heard it is a reserve only base.