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Quote: I understand this. You understand this. But some people are too blinded to see it for how it really is.
And that's why I seem to have to repeatedly remind them. These irrational PSA haters are entitled to their own opinions but they're not entitled to their own facts.
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What a waste of a thread...
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Quote: What a waste of a thread...

Off to The Useful PSA Thread!


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Surprise, surprise...they should probably just do everyone a favor and shut down the whole regional area of APC.
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Quote: Surprise, surprise...they should probably just do everyone a favor and shut down the whole regional area of APC.

Where will I get my daily dose of laughing at idiots on here?


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Quote: Ok. Here are the facts:

1(a) Parker offers PSA pilots new CRJ 900 jets in exchange for concessions. PSA Pilots say no, and those jets went to Mesa.
1(b) Parker offers Envoy pilots new E-170 jets in exchange for concessions. Envoy pilots say no, and those jets went to Compass.

2(a) Parker offers PSA pilots new jets in exchange for concessions. PSA pilots say no and Parker sent those jets to Republic.
2(b) Parker offers Envoy pilots new E-170's in exchange for concessions. Envoy pilots say no and Parker sent those jets to Republic.

3(a) Parker again offers new CRJ 900's to PSA pilots in exchange for concessions, with the caveat that the airline would be shut down if they said no again. PSA pilots took the deal.
3(b) Parker again offers new E-170's to Envoy pilots in exchange for concessions, with the caveat that the airline would be shut down if they said no again. Envoy pilots took the deal.

So as we can clearly see, it's ok for Envoy pilots to take a deal in order to save their jobs,....... but it's not ok for PSA pilots to take that same deal in order to save THEIR jobs.
Comical. Show me exactly where the PSA pilots said no. Show me when the group voted. When they voted, they passed it, just like they would've passed any of the previous ones if presented.
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Quote: Ok. Here are the facts:

1(a) Parker offers PSA pilots new CRJ 900 jets in exchange for concessions. PSA Pilots say no, and those jets went to Mesa.
1(b) Parker offers Envoy pilots new E-170 jets in exchange for concessions. Envoy pilots say no, and those jets went to Compass.

2(a) Parker offers PSA pilots new jets in exchange for concessions. PSA pilots say no and Parker sent those jets to Republic.
2(b) Parker offers Envoy pilots new E-170's in exchange for concessions. Envoy pilots say no and Parker sent those jets to Republic.

3(a) Parker again offers new CRJ 900's to PSA pilots in exchange for concessions, with the caveat that the airline would be shut down if they said no again. PSA pilots took the deal.
3(b) Parker again offers new E-170's to Envoy pilots in exchange for concessions, with the caveat that the airline would be shut down if they said no again. Envoy pilots took the deal.

So as we can clearly see, it's ok for Envoy pilots to take a deal in order to save their jobs,....... but it's not ok for PSA pilots to take that same deal in order to save THEIR jobs.
Your time line needs some work. How about cite some dates. It's not in order that's for sure.

Don't forget parker offered 200's to PDT they wouldn't bend over.
He went to PSA and they did.
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Quote: Additional flying - PSA has been doing quite a bit of new flying in the past few months. Several new destinations have been added, and new Canadian flying is starting in January.
What Canadian routes?
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Quote: Your time line needs some work. How about cite some dates. It's not in order that's for sure.

Don't forget parker offered 200's to PDT they wouldn't bend over.
He went to PSA and they did.
Quote: Comical. Show me exactly where the PSA pilots said no. Show me when the group voted. When they voted, they passed it, just like they would've passed any of the previous ones if presented.
I've given you the facts. I've given you the history. If I gave you dates, voting results, and hair color of the pilots who voted for and against these deals and you guys still wouldn't be satisfied. The fact that you aren't aware of these facts tells me that you either haven't been a regional airline pilot for very long or you simply weren't paying attention.

PSA voted "no" twice when offered new jets in exchange for concessions and those jets went to other regional airlines. Envoy also voted "no" twice when offered new jets in exchange for concessions and those jets went to other regional airlines. But when given the ultimatum that their airlines would be shut down if they voted "no" a third time, BOTH PSA and Envoy took the deal(s). The only difference was that Envoy accepted a $12,500 bribe in exchange for their votes.

But your statements suggest that my history lesson is inaccurate. So please, by all means,....... tell us all (specifically!!!) where my history lesson is wrong. Or just S.T.F.U. and we'll all know that you aren't as smart as you would have us believe and that you're just talking out of your a$$.
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I'll ask again since people tend to ignore the questions that are difficult to answer:

What effect has PSA's vote had on regional contract negotiations since the vote closed?
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