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Old 12-02-2015, 03:30 PM
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I'll ask again since people tend to ignore the questions that are difficult to answer:

What effect has PSA's vote had on regional contract negotiations since the vote closed?
Really? It has eased the pressure on AAG trying to place 70 large RJ's somewhere else. It's evident that placing RJ feed at a carrier right now is competitive to the favior of the carrier. Any CRJ Union would be in the drivers seat if their company had the chance to acquire that much work.
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:43 PM
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Really? It has eased the pressure on AAG trying to place 70 large RJ's somewhere else. It's evident that placing RJ feed at a carrier right now is competitive to the favior of the carrier. Any CRJ Union would be in the drivers seat if their company had the chance to acquire that much work.
That is not at all what I asked. You might make a good politician.

"Making it easier on AAG" has no effect on other contract negotiations. Please answer my original question: What is the current negotiating landscape, and how has PSA's vote affected it?
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:47 PM
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That is not at all what I asked. You might make a good politician.

"Making it easier on AAG" has no effect on other contract negotiations. Please answer my original question: What is the current negotiating landscape, and how has PSA's vote affected it?
The point is we will never know. Had PSA raised the bar, would Mesa still be struggling to get industry standard? Would Envoy have been presented with a better deal? Would everyone be paying $40+ for new hires. We will never know. It's a little ignorant to say it has had no effect.
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:56 PM
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That is not at all what I asked. You might make a good politician.

"Making it easier on AAG" has no effect on other contract negotiations. Please answer my original question: What is the current negotiating landscape, and how has PSA's vote affected it?
A labor union not refusing work during a national labor shortage and you believe it had no effect on other labor unions?
Are you just arguing, or do you really believe that because no contact was explicitly indexed to PSA's concessions that it didn't modify negotiations at other carriers?
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:01 PM
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The point is we will never know. Had PSA raised the bar, would Mesa still be struggling to get industry standard? Would Envoy have been presented with a better deal? Would everyone be paying $40+ for new hires. We will never know. It's a little ignorant to say it has had no effect.
What? Every contract that has been signed since the PSA vote has contained significant improvements.
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:08 PM
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What? Every contract that has been signed since the PSA vote has contained significant improvements.
How do you know if even greater improvements could have been made? Are you listening? There is no way to know just how much of an impact the PSA contract had on the industry.
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Waitingformins View Post
A labor union not refusing work during a national labor shortage and you believe it had no effect on other labor unions?
Are you just arguing, or do you really believe that because no contact was explicitly indexed to PSA's concessions that it didn't modify negotiations at other carriers?
Well, present some evidence. Which contracts have been negatively affected by PSA. Keep in mind that the only section of PSA's contract that was changed was compensation.

So.....Which carriers have taken a hit in compensation?
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:13 PM
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How do you know if even greater improvements could have been made? Are you listening? There is no way to know just how much of an impact the PSA contract had on the industry.
In what sections? Compensation was the only modification to PSA's contract.
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In what sections? Compensation was the only modification to PSA's contract.
Ignorance is bliss.
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Ignorance is bliss.
So you have nothing to say and resort to insults?

Ok bud.

Have a good night....
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