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Old 12-15-2015 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick111
No! It's a step in the WRONG DIRECTION!

The company cannot simply decide, unilaterally, that they want to compensate SOME of their pilots outside of the collective bargaining agreement that THEY AGREED TO!

If the company wants to pay their new pilots more, they're going to have renegotiate the contract,........ which means they are going to have to pay ALL OF US MORE!

Do you think the company would stand by if the pilots adopted the posture that they will no longer come to work unless the top 50 senior pilots were no longer subject to the 12 year pay cap? Of course not. One party to a contract cannot simply decide that they are going to ignore or abrogate an existing contract, (unless the other party ALLOWS it to happen).

Allowing the company to unilaterally abrogate the contract is a step in the wrong direction.
He said the right direction, not the right step. The company will pay more for labor that is the right direction regardless of how it is applied.
I think is seems pretty obvious that any employee hired to work under the CBA has to be compensated according to the CBA. It does seem pathetic that so many shops have tolerated it for so long.
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Old 12-16-2015 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I agree with you. However we do need to attract applicants or the music stops and that benefits no one.

I think if they increased first year FO pay to $35 /hour, and incrementally increased it by $1 /hour to $39 at the 4 year cap, they would attract plenty of applicants. And they should either increase the flow or get rid of the stupid "active CA" metric. No bonuses needed. However you and I both know that AAG isn't going to just increase pay. That will be the absolute last thing they will do. PSA, EVY, and PDT will all be offering bonuses and our NCs likely won't fight it.
You do realize that Legacy Eagle already offers a signing bonus and tution reimbursement for people at ATP.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyWago
You do realize that Legacy Eagle already offers a signing bonus and tution reimbursement for people at ATP.
"Legacy Eagle" thanks for the morning comedy!
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Old 12-17-2015 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Biggz
"Legacy Eagle" thanks for the morning comedy!
What's so funny about that?
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Old 12-17-2015 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Biggz
"Legacy Eagle" thanks for the morning comedy!

They are the real eagle


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Old 12-17-2015 | 08:04 AM
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Does "Legacy Eagle" mean Simmons or Nashville Eagle or Metroflight Airlines or Wings West or Command or Flagship or Executive Airlines?
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Old 12-17-2015 | 08:14 AM
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Legacy Eagle is long gone. Now it's Envoy. Just another dirtbag regional like the rest of them.
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Old 12-20-2015 | 07:32 AM
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What's the hire date of the most junior CLT FO in round 1 for January?
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Old 12-20-2015 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
What's the hire date of the most junior CLT FO in round 1 for January?
Looks like December 2014
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Old 12-20-2015 | 08:02 AM
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Looks like almost a year to hold a line in CLT. Upgrade times are increasing too. That's not very attractive for new-hires and if PSA can't hire enough pilots, you will be stuck on reserve because no one is coming in below you.

Endeavor is now offering $50,000 minimum first year. PSA is offering $27,000 minimum(with their new 5K bonus). 2016 will be an interesting year.
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