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Old 12-31-2015, 04:08 PM
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What is the supposed end number that PSA is trying to reach? 2500? If there are 1200 there now, and supposedly hiring 1000 in 2016, then 400 a year after that (according to a quote on the FB page), whats the end number?

What is the "normal" attrition rate, aside from the flow? 50 a year?
I'd say attrition is around 100 - 150 /year from both th CAs and the FOs. More FOs currently leaving than CAs. I think the flow has made anyone within 2 or 3 years of flowing rethink going elsewhere. Many FOs have been leaving for LCCs, legacies, corporate etc.
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Old 12-31-2015, 04:13 PM
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totally avoided his question
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Old 12-31-2015, 04:14 PM
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Well we have a new contract. Signed in 2013. If the company wants to sweeten the deal for new hires they are going to have to negotiate pay raises for all. We are unionized. You can't just arbitrarily give increases in wages to one part of the pilot group.
In 2014 the company forced us to a 12 year pay cap. Making it the worst in the industry. They cheat with our critical pay and are dishonest with the reserve grid. We rarely get paid properly. These items need to be fixed prior to any negotiations for increases in first year pay. The pilots on property need to be taken care of first. Management made this mess by being greedy and paying low wages for the past 15 years. Let them sweat trying to find labor.
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Old 12-31-2015, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules View Post
I'd say attrition is around 100 - 150 etc.
No way it's that low. Just look at a seniority list and compare the most junior pilot from one month to the next. Last time I did that several months ago it was 17. That number will only get bigger in 2016. I bet 240 for 2016 is more accurate.
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules View Post
I'm optimistic that 400 - 600 is doable. However, they are going to have to sweeten the pot by addressing our current pay if they want to attract even that.
When you say sweeten the pot, what do you have in mind? We need a pay scale equivalent or better than Republic's to get those numbers or a retention bonus equivalent or better than Endeavor's. Do you really think that will happen? I hope so but highly doubt it. The better paying Regionals will scoop up all the pilots and PSA is not one.
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When you say sweeten the pot, what do you have in mind? We need a pay scale equivalent or better than Republic's to get those numbers or a retention bonus equivalent or better than Endeavor's. Do you really think that will happen? I hope so but highly doubt it. The better paying Regionals will scoop up all the pilots and PSA is not one.
I think a payscale starting at $35 /hour first year FO pay would do the trick just fine. That combined with a commuter clause offering 4 hotels a month and another commutable hub base would probably solve that problem.
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules View Post
I think a payscale starting at $35 /hour first year FO pay would do the trick just fine. That combined with a commuter clause offering 4 hotels a month and another commutable hub base would probably solve that problem.
None of those changes help me or many of the current line pilots so I would vote no on that. Since AAG needed to match Endeavor's bankruptcy contract and 12/4 so bad they can now match Endeavor's $20,000/year bonus and other contract gains. The world has changed.
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Old 12-31-2015, 05:49 PM
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The don't want 1000 pilots in 2016, it's 1000 pilots in the next 2 years so that makes it much more attainable, although whether that can even be pulled off is yet to be seen.
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Originally Posted by tennisguru View Post
The don't want 1000 pilots in 2016, it's 1000 pilots in the next 2 years so that makes it much more attainable, although whether that can even be pulled off is yet to be seen.
50 pilots a month would be tough.
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Old 01-01-2016, 05:34 AM
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Has anyone had experience with their open houses? They advertise on site interviews. Are the interviews the same format as normal; 25 question test and panel interview or something more condensed? Are hiring decisions made at these events or are they interviews to get an interview?

Thank you in advance.
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