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Harry Pommes , 07-11-2017 07:51 PM

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That last part is true regarding the Atlas sims. We trained (as of a year and some change ago) on 400 sims and had a -8 VPT for differences.

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kme9418 , 07-11-2017 08:05 PM

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Still true at Atlas today.

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whalesurfer , 07-11-2017 08:17 PM

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Thanks HP and KME, had no idea...

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PS. Also, apparently they're still hiring managers into the training center? :-(

I'm guessing there aren't enough ipa volunteers? (don't know this for a fact)
Even with the recent, minor improvements for our IPA instructor-volunteers I bet you a commutable schedule will still be difficult to obtain..

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Commando , 07-11-2017 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Omnipotent

Enhanced Open Time Opportunities for Pay Period 17-08

Beginning with pay period 17-08, UPS will invoke Article 1.A.4. of the contract to allow crewmembers to pick up open time on vacation days (VAC). The Company will also invoke Article 13.K.11. for pay period 17-08, to allow crewmembers to be paid open time on top of guarantee. This change in policy was reviewed with the IPA's Executive Board in response to the current training surge. The combination of growth and elevated training events caused by the acquisition of the 747-8, contractual changes, attrition, and other network changes, is stretching our operational limits to cover flights and ensure timely service to our customers.

Earlier this year we reported to you that we planned to hire about 300 new pilots in 2017. We now expect that the number could be as high as 325. Based on current trends, hiring for 2018 looks to be similar. Thank you for your support during these exciting times of growth for our airline.
Last Update: Jul 11, 2017.

Call me when you get serious. Not this piecemeal. JA pay for all open time. Like other Airlines have done for decades when in a pinch. And 200% pay when really desperate. (FDX)

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cougar , 07-11-2017 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by whalesurfer

Something I never knew was that apparently there are no 747-8 simulators out there?! There's only one ever built and Boeing has it. All airlines use 747-400 sims with -8 virtual procedure trainers taking care of differences training. (can anyone at atlas confirm this? I always thought Atlas had a -8 simulator?)

Boeing sim is convertible between 747-400 and 747-8, but takes approximately 6 hours to convert. It will be evaluated shortly for use as 747-400 sim later this fall for initial qual training.

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whalesurfer , 07-12-2017 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cougar

Boeing sim is convertible between 747-400 and 747-8, but takes approximately 6 hours to convert...

I see, thanks. That makes more sense...

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JustUnderPar , 07-12-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Commando

Call me when you get serious. Not this piecemeal. JA pay for all open time. Like other Airlines have done for decades when in a pinch. And 200% pay when really desperate. (FDX)

Furlough letters to follow when the "pinch" is over! Once people live at the hog trough they tend to stay there!! Believe the number was an incredible 75,000+ hours of open time gets picked up per year at UPS! Don't think anyone needs additional incentive for us to have LESS pilots!!

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Airbum , 07-12-2017 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JustUnderPar

i would disagree with your assertion. Who but perhaps the 1% picked up open time during our last furlough, when open time as you state has been the staple at UPS? We had similar discussions in the past concerning increasing vacation pay that fell on days off. Some did not want it raised. Some are taking the extra pay offered yet it seems OCV is driving hiring.

Let those who want to work work, and those who enjoy the time off do their best to get it.

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Commando , 07-12-2017 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JustUnderPar

Seriously? Just like on the B & G, you guys are out to lunch on this. Paying JA pay on open time is going to affect upgrades? Whatever.

You want to protect and increase upgrades? What happen to the limit on bid packet construction to 75-77 hours? Never happen. This is costing us hundreds of Captain slots. Now we have 87 hour lines. This effects upgrades way more than the company paying JA rates on OT. No one is talking about this forced overtime are they.

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HeavyJet , 07-12-2017 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Commando

Exactly! I'm still amazed that guys vote for a contract that allows forced overtime with zero extra pay. Also the rig needs to be fixed. I'm fed up with 12 day trips that churn and burn with very little rest on layovers and yet you barely break 75.