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Old 07-02-2017, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nightrider View Post
The 2 below him didnt.
As BoilerUP stated, TR was on the award. The junior award stayed on in previous seat. Contract has provisions for events when upgrade doesn't occur and guessing that is how UPS contractually awarded the next senior person on a standing bid to the position.
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Old 07-02-2017, 04:36 PM
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Fake news or special favors?
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Old 07-02-2017, 05:25 PM
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Fake news or special favors?
Article 14.E. Awarding of Permanent Bid Position (Vacancies)

1. Seniority
f. If a crewmember has been awarded a vacancy bid and is unable to complete training for that vacancy due to an approved leave of absence, he shall be scheduled for the next training class for the next vacancy in that position after returning to work. The system bid effective date for purposes of this Agreement shall be the system bid effective date of the vacancy in which he completes training. The initial vacancy for which the crewmember is not available may be reawarded. If the crewmember, after returning to work, is no longer interested in that vacancy, he must change his preference bid accordingly. An award of a different vacancy after return to work shall cancel the obligation to give him the next vacancy which he missed.”

Also, Article 14.I.3 allows a downgrade for hardship, so if awarded an upgrade, contractually can ask for the hardship to not upgrade as awarded, outlined below;

“A crewmember shall not be allowed to down bid or voluntarily downgrade, for reasons other than those set forth above, unless his current position is creating a personal hardship and a downgrade request is approved in writing by the Chief Pilot. The Company shall not unreasonably deny any crewmember request which is supported by a legitimate factual basis”

As has happened in the past, a request made contractually, and approved, and then 14.E.1.f applies.
I’m guessing fake news and nothing but a contractual event.
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Old 07-02-2017, 05:35 PM
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You know guys you can call the union for the story. Several of you here just want to stir the pot verses reading the contract or calling. So use some of your free time and energy and volunteer for a committee
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Old 07-02-2017, 05:36 PM
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In simple terms stop being @ holes.
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Old 07-02-2017, 06:49 PM
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Or maybe even a call to the member in question before launching a subversion campaign?

Whale, a Rachel comeback?
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:00 PM
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One pilot was unsuccessful in upgrade. The last person on 17-05 was the next in line from the System Bid.
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Old 07-02-2017, 10:34 PM
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One pilot was unsuccessful in upgrade. The last person on 17-05 was the next in line from the System Bid.
Bingo.....
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Old 07-03-2017, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FTFF View Post
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Whale, a Rachel comeback?
Totally clueless about the internal battles seemingly going on but I wish it wasn't the case. At the very least I wish it was handled internally and not in the open like this.. ..but I guess it's too late for that.

Since you brought politics into the thread I countered with an even bigger propagandist. That's all..
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Originally Posted by Brown Cow View Post
One pilot was unsuccessful in upgrade. The last person on 17-05 was the next in line from the System Bid.
This is incorrect. I contacted the union when I first heard of this, asking if this was the case. An EB member told me that the IPA was fully aware of the situation and that it was due to a family medical hardship, as Salty mentioned above.
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