2017 UPS Hiring
03-21-2017, 07:20 AM
#501
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: 767 captain
Posts: 2,696
The ten year statement in terms of seniority needs to be taken with a grain of salt. We didn't hire for what, at least 10 out of those five? You aren't that much further from the bottom (%)than a guy with one year. Sorry.
I think I mentioned the qualifier of fleet. I had talked to a very senior (88) a year or so back that said with all of that seniority on the MD he couldn't get as good of a vacation as on the Z because they didn't publish the 14/14 type trips that the Z can have. OCV fixes that for most people.
I think I mentioned the qualifier of fleet. I had talked to a very senior (88) a year or so back that said with all of that seniority on the MD he couldn't get as good of a vacation as on the Z because they didn't publish the 14/14 type trips that the Z can have. OCV fixes that for most people.
03-21-2017, 07:21 AM
#502
Tri-tanic operator
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Doggie
Posts: 2,382
Originally Posted by 767pilot
Do you think that it is much different as a line holder? I found myself having to add a 4 day cushion on my bids for an event I needed to cover. I have had end of trip extensions and reroutes several times this year. Late arrival pay is nice, but not worth missing something important over. That was a deal with the devil we made once upon a time.
The new RSV rules are another deal with the devil. I don't even mind the extensions. At least on RSV, unlike you as a lineholder, I can generally see the extension develop before they actually assign it. Its in the tea leaves, so to speak.
The flexibility and extra coverage that the RSV extension days gives them, is where we may have given them more than we got in return. Just MHO.
03-21-2017, 07:27 AM
#503
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: 767 captain
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
No. Never said that.
The flexibility and extra coverage that the RSV extension days gives them, is where we may have given them more than we got in return. Just MHO.
The flexibility and extra coverage that the RSV extension days gives them, is where we may have given them more than we got in return. Just MHO.
Thought of a new phrase for dealing with our stagnation, furlough etc. over the last decade. Alternate Growth.
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03-21-2017, 07:34 AM
#504
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Position: Doggie
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It might have been alternative growth, but it definitely wasn't fake news.
So to the question ...
Yes, based on seniority, fleet and seat.
Unlikely as a new hire.
So to the question ...
Originally Posted by jungle driver
is it possible at UPS to get a schedule where you would just work one long trip each month, maybe like one 10 day trip with 20 off?
Unlikely as a new hire.
03-21-2017, 07:40 AM
#505
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: 767 captain
Posts: 2,696
Originally Posted by CactusCrew
It might have been alternative growth, but it definitely wasn't fake news.
So to the question ...
Yes, based on seniority, fleet and seat.
Unlikely as a new hire.
So to the question ...
Yes, based on seniority, fleet and seat.
Unlikely as a new hire.
03-21-2017, 10:23 AM
#506
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: MD CA
Posts: 705
We need the 777 on property. lol- So we can get those UAL/DL 10 on 18 off lines. Other than the one leg long haul to asia, one leg back, how does UAL/DL build those 10/20 lines?
We could have gotten closer to those if we got a trip rig adjustment lower, didn't happen. Not sure if the EB even pushed for it?
We could have gotten closer to those if we got a trip rig adjustment lower, didn't happen. Not sure if the EB even pushed for it?
03-21-2017, 06:38 PM
#507
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: 767 captain
Posts: 2,696
Originally Posted by Commando
We need the 777 on property. lol- So we can get those UAL/DL 10 on 18 off lines. Other than the one leg long haul to asia, one leg back, how does UAL/DL build those 10/20 lines?
We could have gotten closer to those if we got a trip rig adjustment lower, didn't happen. Not sure if the EB even pushed for it?
We could have gotten closer to those if we got a trip rig adjustment lower, didn't happen. Not sure if the EB even pushed for it?
03-21-2017, 06:56 PM
#508
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: Retired from APC.
Posts: 507
I could barely hold reserve at all much less anything near the days that would have worked for me. VTOs did seem to trickle down quite far in the last bid on multiple fleets though, IMO, for my F/S/D nothing has really changed since I got hired.
03-22-2017, 05:01 AM
#509
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: MD-11 F/O
Posts: 30
all you pessimistic/sky-is-falling guys....I'm around 50% on the ANC MD and have have averaged 8-9 days per 28 day pay period of work for the past 4 years. Looking at 38 days off after this trip using a 7 day vacation...such whiners!
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