2017 UPS Hiring
02-22-2017 | 06:31 AM
#473
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Word on the street is he returned to his previous part 91 job.
That would make three corporate hires since 2015 that have done that. I hope that does not cause HR to ignore 91 pilots going forward.
02-22-2017 | 06:45 AM
#474
Where's my Mai Tai?
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02-22-2017 | 07:25 AM
#475
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I would think that the HR folks are smarter than to think that even three pilots represent an entire group of thousands.
02-22-2017 | 09:12 AM
#476
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I wouldn't disagree.... but how many do you hire to prove you're not wrong, when 1,000s of others are in the wings.
I will never judge an individual for making a personal decision they feel is best for their situation. But I do hate to see that in the past several months those who have quit or had training issues... were corporate people.
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02-22-2017 | 09:19 AM
#477
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With such a small sample size HR has for 91 pilots, I think the percentages could make them think twice.
I'm not going to look back the last year, but say UPS has hired 15 and 3 have gone back. 20% will definitely get their attention.
02-22-2017 | 04:09 PM
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There's generally 5-6 Part 91/135 guys per class of 20-24. With three classes last year and three this year (that are beyond indoc), that's probably 30ish that have been hired. If 3 have left for their previous jobs, it's 10%. Not a huge number but definitely more than we would like to see, being a former corporate guy. Put in the effort and you'll do fine. This ain't FSI or CAE anymore fellas.
02-22-2017 | 08:04 PM
#479
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There's generally 5-6 Part 91/135 guys per class of 20-24. With three classes last year and three this year (that are beyond indoc), that's probably 30ish that have been hired. If 3 have left for their previous jobs, it's 10%. Not a huge number but definitely more than we would like to see, being a former corporate guy. Put in the effort and you'll do fine. This ain't FSI or CAE anymore fellas.
Part 135/91k- 12
Part 91 - 16
28 out of 149 hired
The 135/91k guys haven't gone back (I'm sure seniority has a lot to do with it), so if you take the 3 pure 91 guys, its 18.75%.
02-23-2017 | 01:21 AM
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Since I'm in the middle of a long layover, I went back to the beginning of 2016 new hire classes.
Part 135/91k- 12
Part 91 - 16
28 out of 149 hired
The 135/91k guys haven't gone back (I'm sure seniority has a lot to do with it), so if you take the 3 pure 91 guys, its 18.75%.
Part 135/91k- 12
Part 91 - 16
28 out of 149 hired
The 135/91k guys haven't gone back (I'm sure seniority has a lot to do with it), so if you take the 3 pure 91 guys, its 18.75%.
That percentage is way too high and it's unfortunate. Like I said before, put in the effort and you'll get through the program. It ain't rocket surgery.
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