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Old 10-10-2017 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Which SKW pilots? The ones who voted yes in 2006? The ones who came from alpa carriers?

Why hasn't there been a drive in 10+ years? I know there are people interested...
Maybe people interested on this forum board... but even that guys pushing the 2006 petition are not even interested anymore... i never hear a peep about alpa when im out flying from anyone...
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Old 10-10-2017 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Which SKW pilots? The ones who voted yes in 2006? The ones who came from alpa carriers?

Why hasn't there been a drive in 10+ years? I know there are people interested...

Point of fact, I believe the last vote was November 6, 2007. Not quite 10 years.


Why not since then?


I spent a lot of time back then talking to pilots in SLC. My MEC Chairman and I, invited to visit the crew room by a SkyWest pilot, were asked to leave by a management stooge because "St. George was watching, and didn't like us being there."

How did you help that organizing drive?

It's a unique culture. It reminds me of another "culture" typically associated with Utah.






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Old 10-10-2017 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I spent a lot of time back then talking to pilots in SLC. My MEC Chairman and I, invited to visit the crew room by a SkyWest pilot, were asked to leave by a management stooge because "St. George was watching, and didn't like us being there."
That crew room is in a secure area. Whatever their motives, they are within their rights to ban non-employees. Labor organization rights do not grant carte blanche to non-employees. There were OAL alpa reps at a variety of functions in SLC, BBQ's, etc. No lack of opportunity to talk to them.

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How did you help that organizing drive?
On probation & commuting to reserve, and doing a lot of OCONUS military duty. While I voted yes, I do not have a religious affinity for alpa so what little time off I had I spent with my family. No regrets there.

Trying to guilt-trip people about support/participation/dues is counter-productive
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Old 10-10-2017 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777

That crew room is in a secure area. Whatever their motives, they are within their rights to ban non-employees.

Not my point, and we gladly complied with the request. My point was, even in the crew room in SLC, "St. George is watching."






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Old 10-11-2017 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Which SKW pilots? The ones who voted yes in 2006? The ones who came from alpa carriers?

Why hasn't there been a drive in 10+ years? I know there are people interested...

Yeah, the 65% of the 2500 pilots you had back then that didn't vote.. There is probably only a small percentage of pilots on the seniority list now above the 11/07 date that voted yes at this point. But nothing stops current pilots from organizing.
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Old 10-11-2017 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
Yeah, the 65% of the 2500 pilots you had back then that didn't vote.. There is probably only a small percentage of pilots on the seniority list now above the 11/07 date that voted yes at this point. But nothing stops current pilots from organizing.
It has already begun.
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Old 10-11-2017 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
Yeah, the 65% of the 2500 pilots you had back then that didn't vote.. There is probably only a small percentage of pilots on the seniority list now above the 11/07 date that voted yes at this point. But nothing stops current pilots from organizing.
Don't mislead people (why am I surprised)... in 2007 a ballot not cast was a no vote. That rule had since changed but back then most non voters were intentional no voters.
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Old 10-12-2017 | 05:15 AM
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ALPA doesn't do jack for regionals.
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Old 10-12-2017 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Don't mislead people (why am I surprised)... in 2007 a ballot not cast was a no vote. That rule had since changed but back then most non voters were intentional no voters.

That's EXACTLY why I specifically said pilots that didn't vote. Not voting was the same as a NO vote. How many of the 65% of pilots in 2007 that didn't vote still remain? My guess, not that many. And that was my point. Sorry you misunderstood (not surprised).
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Old 10-12-2017 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Apokleros
ALPA doesn't do jack for regionals.
I disagree. Saying that they don't do jack for the regionals is being very short sighted and naive. Alpa national does a lot for the industry in general and the regionals also benefit from that. NAI is a huge example of something that's done at the national level. And Skywest like many other regionals benefit from that. You all just feel you should get it for free
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