Contracts - Collective Bargaining Agreements
10-12-2017 | 10:29 AM
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ALPA does exactly the same for regionals that they do for mainline. Just because they don't have as much leverage, doesn't mean they don't do anything. And once again, a pilot union is a lot more than just a contract. It's like number three in the importance level of a pilot union.
10-12-2017 | 08:51 PM
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There are a lot of apathetic crew members that just couldn't be bothered to get informed, involved, or lift a finger to vote one way or another.
10-13-2017 | 02:31 PM
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For what it's worth, at least ALPA representatives would be standing up for us to some degree, even if ALPA's leverage is small. Can you say the same for our student council in SAPA? I think that you also underestimate how ineffective ALPA can be at mainline and LCCs as well. Just look at what mainline/LCC pilots endured/are enduring now in order to secure better work rules and compensation. It isn't a matter of ALPA "not doing jack", rather it is the balance of power between unions and management that makes it look like ALPA is ineffective at the regional level...and management will always have power over unions and employees.
10-14-2017 | 09:25 AM
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There are for sure, but in 2006 the vast majority on the non-votes were actually intentional no votes.
I would have preferred if the no voters actually cast a ballot, to avoid ambiguity but that's irrelevant today... if it happened today, you'd have to cast a ballot if you wanted to be counted, either way.
10-14-2017 | 02:55 PM
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10-15-2017 | 01:34 PM
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Don't confuse the cartwheels management has to do to keep your pilot group happy as good will. They do it for the sole purpose of keeping a union off property because they know it would significantly cost them.
10-15-2017 | 02:30 PM
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But, as an FYI, the middle class and our economy was strongest during the periods of highest unionization. Wages account for the lowest % of GDP and corporate revenue since the end it WW2. Since 2001, the only 1st world countries in North America and Europe that have seen a decline in that ratio are us, Ireland, Greece and Spain. Want to take a guess how those economies are doing?
And, by the way, you're welcome. A sector that has at least a 25% unionization, non-union workers in that industry earns a 7.5% higher wage.
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