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07-09-2022 | 09:17 AM
#4021
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If SkyWest goes to it's partners and says, "We have to pay our pilots more because your other regionals are paying more", they will understand and pay SkyWest more to offset the cost. You know how much fares would have to increase to double our pay? Less than $6 per ticket. AA decided they can make that increase no problem, and so can the others.
07-09-2022 | 09:28 AM
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If SkyWest goes to it's partners and says, "We have to pay our pilots more because your other regionals are paying more", they will understand and pay SkyWest more to offset the cost. You know how much fares would have to increase to double our pay? Less than $6 per ticket. AA decided they can make that increase no problem, and so can the others.
Can you explain how you got to $6 = double our pay? Thanks.
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07-09-2022 | 03:49 PM
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I realized an error in my math while typing it out, so its roughly 12 instead of 6. Still, the point is the same. Hardly a deal breaker, and these are all conservative numbers so the true cost would be lower.
07-09-2022 | 04:37 PM
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Using back of the envelope math, let's assume the average flight in an ERJ is 2 hours (it's actually much less so this is conservative). Let's assume the average plane leaves with an also conservative 50 pax. That means each $1 a pax pays extra is $25/hr. Doubling FO pay would cost another $50 an hr and doubling CA pay is another $100 an hr (again, both conservative). That's $150 an hr extra cost, or $300 for an average 2 hr flight. 300/25 = $12 per ticket extra.
I realized an error in my math while typing it out, so its roughly 12 instead of 6. Still, the point is the same. Hardly a deal breaker, and these are all conservative numbers so the true cost would be lower.
I realized an error in my math while typing it out, so its roughly 12 instead of 6. Still, the point is the same. Hardly a deal breaker, and these are all conservative numbers so the true cost would be lower.
07-09-2022 | 04:45 PM
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CRJ200 captain moves 200 people a day and that is an EXTRA $1200 for the day if the tickets go up $6. Until the customers stop buying a $400 intermediary purchase it can increase 2%. 6 is random but it illustrates the solution well.
07-09-2022 | 04:54 PM
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Using back of the envelope math, let's assume the average flight in an ERJ is 2 hours (it's actually much less so this is conservative). Let's assume the average plane leaves with an also conservative 50 pax. That means each $1 a pax pays extra is $25/hr. Doubling FO pay would cost another $50 an hr and doubling CA pay is another $100 an hr (again, both conservative). That's $150 an hr extra cost, or $300 for an average 2 hr flight. 300/25 = $12 per ticket extra.
I realized an error in my math while typing it out, so its roughly 12 instead of 6. Still, the point is the same. Hardly a deal breaker, and these are all conservative numbers so the true cost would be lower.
I realized an error in my math while typing it out, so its roughly 12 instead of 6. Still, the point is the same. Hardly a deal breaker, and these are all conservative numbers so the true cost would be lower.
That makes sense. The math might not be perfect. When you fly a 175/700 to a market that is only severed by OO I don’t think a 6-15 dollar price difference is going to be the difference between them buying the ticket and them saying no.
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07-09-2022 | 08:40 PM
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I really don’t want to engage in the conversation of speculative costs, but do you realize that employers have to pay tax that equates to approximately 15-18% of an employee’s salary, plus there are other costs as well? Unless you’re a corporate financial expert, it is very difficult to predict the actual cost.
07-09-2022 | 08:48 PM
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07-09-2022 | 09:29 PM
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This is truth.
Compare fuel costs: it’s gone to over $1 a *pound* most places. Even with volume, prepaids and hedging strategies, the recent rise in fuel prices has been a much bigger cost hit. But the number-crunchers know once pay goes up, it’s not coming down without a BK or other severe event that will have repercussions. So unless/until it’s truly a matter of survival, smart, penny-pinching bean counters will resist it. Apologists among the pilot group don’t mean to be unwitting allies of the bean counters; everyone has to do what is right for them, and for some, status quo works. Others will move on to meet their needs. Capitalism….ain’t it grand?
For me, when someone shows me who they are, I believe ‘em. Do what’s right for you and your family.
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