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Old 07-08-2022 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rswitz
The real question is how much can the company afford to pay us. Only so much money coming in…we dont have AA backing us.
I am sure that's the excuse they will give when or if a new contract is negotiated. But the market has spoken no? I want to like Skywest as one of the two west coast regional, but they pay so much less
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Old 07-08-2022 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by loadedred
. Or can they continue to pay as low as they do forever?
That is the question isn't it...
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Old 07-08-2022 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rswitz
The real question is how much can the company afford to pay us. Only so much money coming in…we dont have AA backing us.
SkyWest has plenty of money to pay up. Don't let TTG/SAPA make you think otherwise.
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Old 07-08-2022 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by loadedred
I am sure that's the excuse they will give when or if a new contract is negotiated. But the market has spoken no? I want to like Skywest as one of the two west coast regional, but they pay so much less
SkyWest pays more than the other west coast regional (unless you were talking about Alaska being the other one)
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Old 07-09-2022 | 06:16 AM
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If SkyWest goes to it's partners and says, "We have to pay our pilots more because your other regionals are paying more", they will understand and pay SkyWest more to offset the cost. You know how much fares would have to increase to double our pay? Less than $6 per ticket. AA decided they can make that increase no problem, and so can the others.
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Old 07-09-2022 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
If SkyWest goes to it's partners and says, "We have to pay our pilots more because your other regionals are paying more", they will understand and pay SkyWest more to offset the cost. You know how much fares would have to increase to double our pay? Less than $6 per ticket. AA decided they can make that increase no problem, and so can the others.
Speak the math brother
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Old 07-09-2022 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
If SkyWest goes to it's partners and says, "We have to pay our pilots more because your other regionals are paying more", they will understand and pay SkyWest more to offset the cost. You know how much fares would have to increase to double our pay? Less than $6 per ticket. AA decided they can make that increase no problem, and so can the others.

Can you explain how you got to $6 = double our pay? Thanks.


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Old 07-09-2022 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by westcoastf
Can you explain how you got to $6 = double our pay? Thanks.


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Pilot pay is a small percentage of overall expense.
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Old 07-09-2022 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by westcoastf
Can you explain how you got to $6 = double our pay? Thanks.


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Using back of the envelope math, let's assume the average flight in an ERJ is 2 hours (it's actually much less so this is conservative). Let's assume the average plane leaves with an also conservative 50 pax. That means each $1 a pax pays extra is $25/hr. Doubling FO pay would cost another $50 an hr and doubling CA pay is another $100 an hr (again, both conservative). That's $150 an hr extra cost, or $300 for an average 2 hr flight. 300/25 = $12 per ticket extra.

I realized an error in my math while typing it out, so its roughly 12 instead of 6. Still, the point is the same. Hardly a deal breaker, and these are all conservative numbers so the true cost would be lower.
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Old 07-09-2022 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
Using back of the envelope math, let's assume the average flight in an ERJ is 2 hours (it's actually much less so this is conservative). Let's assume the average plane leaves with an also conservative 50 pax. That means each $1 a pax pays extra is $25/hr. Doubling FO pay would cost another $50 an hr and doubling CA pay is another $100 an hr (again, both conservative). That's $150 an hr extra cost, or $300 for an average 2 hr flight. 300/25 = $12 per ticket extra.

I realized an error in my math while typing it out, so its roughly 12 instead of 6. Still, the point is the same. Hardly a deal breaker, and these are all conservative numbers so the true cost would be lower.
I really don’t want to engage in the conversation of speculative costs, but do you realize that employers have to pay tax that equates to approximately 15-18% of an employee’s salary, plus there are other costs as well? Unless you’re a corporate financial expert, it is very difficult to predict the actual cost.
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