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Old 08-08-2015 | 07:12 AM
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I know plenty of folks lined up to become LCAs. Some are waiting on IOE For that too.
For what it's worth, the check airman I had are stellar dudes, but I think they're pretty taxed.
Old 08-08-2015 | 08:06 AM
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I wanted to go back on the pay talks of being on year 2 or greater. I've seen a few people post that they make 50k+ which yes is possible but let's break it down a bit more. I'll use my June and July pay stubs for example since those are higher block hour months. I live in base on the 175 and bid in the top 1/3of our base. I'll round the numbers up just to make it easy. First numbers are pre tax and before tax deductions (401k, insurance) second was take home.

June: $4475 take home $3300
July : $4630 take home $3300

For taxes I file single and reside in IL so depending on your state you may do better than that. Deductions are as follows: Delta Dental $6 a paycheck HSA $10 a paycheck and medical insurance is $32.54 on the value plan. For my 401k I put in somewhere between 5-7% I cant remember. I remember when I started here all I could think about was getting off year one. Captains would tell me you'll make a ton more and they were right but once you're on it it's not much more than you think. I figure I can average about the same year round and if I do that I'll make 55k and after tax and deductions I'll take home about $40k. I guess my whole point is that once you take out all the deductions and taxes there's still not a whole lot left over to live on and I don't have a mortgage or family that relies on my paycheck thankfully.

Edit to add I included per diem in those number.
Old 08-08-2015 | 08:47 AM
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In 2014, I grossed $59,700 as a CRJ FO, after all deductions it was $43,700 net. I way over-withheld taxes, so I got a $3800 return as well. So overall, $47,500 take-home pay. Not great, but certainly not poverty-level, either. That was also averaging probably 14 days off a month with all commutable trips.
Old 08-08-2015 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by GravyRobber
In 2014, I grossed $59,700 as a CRJ FO, after all deductions it was $43,700 net. I way over-withheld taxes, so I got a $3800 return as well. So overall, $47,500 take-home pay. Not great, but certainly not poverty-level, either. That was also averaging probably 14 days off a month with all commutable trips.
What was the break down between 2/7/9 trips?
Old 08-08-2015 | 09:15 AM
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Almost all -700 flying. Should have mentioned that in the original post.
Old 08-08-2015 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Not defending offline, because he's wrong, but there are a lot more people taking 100 hours of IOE. I've talked to many captains, including Check airmen, and they have noticed a significant increase in very weak pilots.

Yes, I'm rather alarmed at this point. I didn't find the old-style SKW interview particularly hard (thorough, yes) and didn't realize that it made a vast difference, but now that it's gone I sure miss it.

Maybe I'll go hide out as a line-pilot is some super-senior corner so I don't have to fly with noobs.
Old 08-08-2015 | 11:45 AM
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Can someone please tell me what the most junior domiciles are at the moment?
Thanks
Old 08-08-2015 | 12:10 PM
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thats the way.. i really appreciate all these comments and I have heard in the cockpit from captains that say all the new hires just dont know anything and that the quality isnt like it was before.. wow thanks?

Im sure a positive attitude like that is someone that will then share useful knowledge to help another guy. Hah I bet that same attitude is one that they volunteered on their old and thorough interview so many years ago.

"Hi mr new interview pilot where do you see yourself in 10 years? Well I see myself blasting away on forums and in the cockpit that hiring standards arnt what they used to be and pilots dont know **** compared to what they used too when I was wet behind the ears"

** but I was never wet behind the ears because I am all knowing and godlike! ughhhh im signing off this thing for a good while.
Old 08-08-2015 | 12:42 PM
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Can someone please tell me what the most junior domiciles are at the moment?
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Msp/ord/iah in that order tho The wildcard is the 175, can get Denver right out of training (new hire in June class did before IOE), SFO and even SEA can sometimes be gotten on 175. MSP on CRJ and ORD on 175 is the firmest answer
Old 08-08-2015 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
Yes I'm sure comair, eagle and expressjet thought they'd never go out of business either

Two out three of those are not out of business. But I know you count air Wisconsin as also out of business. I guess you live in a world where facts don't matter and you make things up to suit your failed argument.

I get it. You don't want to fight for better because you are scared your airline will seize to exist. So you would rather roll over and take your crumbs. My best advice for pilots is to work on having a viable back up plan. This way you can make decisions based on your convictions rather than on emotion.

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