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Old 08-30-2012 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
Inc. owns XJT which is affiliated with ALPA. Why is that strange? It would probably be stranger if they didn't try to work with ALPA.
The hmmm is from the excerpt in the latest ALPA email. Interesting is all.

On Tuesday, August 21, elected pilot leaders from Atlantic Southeast and ExpressJet of the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l, and the pilot representatives of SkyWest Airlines met face-to-face for the first time. The pilots spent a portion of the meeting, held in Denver, with senior executives from SkyWest and ExpressJet Airlines, and had open discussions with SkyWest Inc. CEO Jerry Atkin and President Brad Rich. Topics included the status of the industry, SkyWest financials, the possible integration of the three pilot groups, future aircraft orders, and ongoing negotiations at ASA/XJT
Old 08-30-2012 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly782
The hmmm is from the excerpt in the latest ALPA email. Interesting is all.

On Tuesday, August 21, elected pilot leaders from Atlantic Southeast and ExpressJet of the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l, and the pilot representatives of SkyWest Airlines met face-to-face for the first time. The pilots spent a portion of the meeting, held in Denver, with senior executives from SkyWest and ExpressJet Airlines, and had open discussions with SkyWest Inc. CEO Jerry Atkin and President Brad Rich. Topics included the status of the industry, SkyWest financials, the possible integration of the three pilot groups, future aircraft orders, and ongoing negotiations at ASA/XJT
Really not too interesting, it was the first time all 3 leaderships met together with management. Not much happened other then talk. Management wants to stay ahead of the game and told everyone to "think outside the box", so anyone could interpret that how one would like.
Old 08-31-2012 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly782
The hmmm is from the excerpt in the latest ALPA email. Interesting is all.

On Tuesday, August 21, elected pilot leaders from Atlantic Southeast and ExpressJet of the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l, and the pilot representatives of SkyWest Airlines met face-to-face for the first time. The pilots spent a portion of the meeting, held in Denver, with senior executives from SkyWest and ExpressJet Airlines, and had open discussions with SkyWest Inc. CEO Jerry Atkin and President Brad Rich. Topics included the status of the industry, SkyWest financials, the possible integration of the three pilot groups, future aircraft orders, and ongoing negotiations at ASA/XJT
The whipsaw is no longer effective. Inc sees the value in combining the two business units into one to cut overhead and in turn decrease unit costs. Word around the GO is that the corporate side of the integration should be complete in the 2015 time frame. Labor? Who knows. Denver was the first step down that long path.
Old 08-31-2012 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
The whipsaw is no longer effective. Inc sees the value in combining the two business units into one to cut overhead and in turn decrease unit costs. Word around the GO is that the corporate side of the integration should be complete in the 2015 time frame. Labor? Who knows. Denver was the first step down that long path.
Only 2 people have "inc" badges.. JA and BR.. The rest is SKYW or XJT.. The only department serving both is I.T. (and those guys wear SKYW badges)
Old 08-31-2012 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MIADC8
Nope im at a 135 cargo op flying the saab and making 21,500.00 plus perdium and as an FO there is no pay scale you will make 21,500.00 your second third fouth year. but thanks for the info!
First year if you don't break guarantee your base at SkyWest is $20,273 (75 hrs/mnth plus 5 holiday pay days at 4:18 per = 921.5 hours x $22) plus perdiem. IMO with perdiem you should make around $24,000 gross but if you pick up some flying on your days off you can easily make up near $30K. Second year pay come 2013 is $39.38 so once again if you don’t break guarantee you’re base is $36,288.67, with perdiem IMO you’ll gross up around $40K. I know several who work the system and made well over $50K while on reserve and I know of a 4th year FO who topped $70K last year (with no life of course).
Old 08-31-2012 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
The whipsaw is no longer effective. Inc sees the value in combining the two business units into one to cut overhead and in turn decrease unit costs. Word around the GO is that the corporate side of the integration should be complete in the 2015 time frame. Labor? Who knows. Denver was the first step down that long path.
Inc. will merge all operations sooner or later, I'm just happy I'll be gone because without representation SkyWest pilots will be on the outside looking in as the SLI is negotiated. The NMB won't recognize SAPA as MM is on record stating. The SkyWest I was hired into has slowly been disappearing but is still here today and a complete integration, which I support, will kill the SkyWest I know. You ASA and XJT pilots respectfully don’t understand, but my fellow SkyWest pilots know what I’m talking about.
Old 08-31-2012 | 10:21 AM
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I just received an email this morning for a tentative class date for October 1st. This is the first email I have recieved like this from Skywest. I stated I should receive a final conformation 2 weeks prior to my class date. I heard they are running a smaller class for this date. Does anyone know if they plan on reducing all classes?
Old 08-31-2012 | 11:05 AM
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Class sizes this time of year are dependent on transitions, attrition (which is low) and projected needs for next year. If there are a lot of EMB FO's transitioning from the EMB to the RJ that will decrease the number of new hire RJ FO's needed for the class but increase the number of new hire EMB FO's needed for backfill. If there aren't that many EMB FO's transitioning then the number of new hires RJ FO's will increase. Also since it's off peak they are mainly replacing attrition and padding the ranks for peak so the number of new hires this time of year is less than what they will need come march-ish......
Old 08-31-2012 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
The whipsaw is no longer effective. Inc sees the value in combining the two business units into one to cut overhead and in turn decrease unit costs. Word around the GO is that the corporate side of the integration should be complete in the 2015 time frame. Labor? Who knows. Denver was the first step down that long path.
Inc. will merge all operations sooner or later, I'm just happy I'll be gone because without representation SkyWest pilots will be on the outside looking in as the SLI is negotiated. The NMB won't recognize SAPA as MM is on record stating. The SkyWest I was hired into has slowly been disappearing but is still here today and a complete integration, which I support, will kill the SkyWest I know. You ASA and XJT pilots respectfully don’t understand, but my fellow SkyWest pilots know what I’m talking about.
Right, I don't understand. You reminisce about the Skywest that hired you, then say that you support a complete integration, but then say that that would kill the Skywest you know. Can you elaborate?
Old 08-31-2012 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Right, I don't understand. You reminisce about the Skywest that hired you, then say that you support a complete integration, but then say that that would kill the Skywest you know. Can you elaborate?
Sure……. It's called a dynamic industry, one in which you must continually evolve in order to stay alive. The SkyWest of today is not the same mom and pop, open door airline that used to truly work together to accomplish its goals as it once was. Today it is evolving into an inferior airline, compared to what it once was, and can no longer sustain that close / personal family culture; it's just too big and getting bigger. Looking at the SkyWest of today it must cut cost in order to remain competitive with airlines like Gojet and Compass and maintaining two completely separate operations increases overhead. It must be integrated and it's better to do it sooner rather than later.

I'm not calling your pilots toxic but you're not from the family and don't understand. There's a reason SkyWest is the most successful subcontractor in the US but they must evolve and simply put they will be unable to maintain the culture that made them so great.

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