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Old 09-29-2015 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JB22
May as well get out when you can. Sooner or later regionals will be a tiny area of flying if they even exist at all. Then you'll be going to the bottom of a list that you could have moved to years ago. Regionals are purely waiting grounds until a proper job comes along. I am out as soon as I can. The more of you who stay behind waiting for things to get better, the better!

Ground school is going well. waiting to see how many more people wash out.
I love how you make it sound like all of the regional pilots north of you on the senority list are just wasting their time because they are not already at a major.

You are not even done with training and you are 3700 on the list. You have at least 3 years before upgrade if everything continues in the regional world.

If this wonderful shrinkage comes to light that you speak of you might just find yourself stuck in the right side of an RJ for a very long time.

The word at United is the 40 700's up for United are not getting renewed. With those 40 aircraft your seniority went way south. Just a thought....
Old 09-29-2015 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Is offline
The word at United is the 40 700's up for United are not getting renewed. With those 40 aircraft your seniority went way south. Just a thought....
Sounds like more E-175s on the way then.
Old 09-29-2015 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
Sounds like more E-175s on the way then.
Hahahahahh. That's funny. The 18 we were just awarded aren't even showing up till the end of next year, and United is scoped out until they add more aircraft.
Old 09-29-2015 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
Also, instructors lose their instructor position if they upgrade so there are a few SLC FO's who would rather stay in SLC as an instructor than upgrade and lose their instructor position and change bases.
It's all about the money!

The training department has seriously taken a step back lately.

Also heard that AQP will now be every 9 months instead of annually because of FAA safety concerns.

It's all about the money, going cheap is sometimes expensive?
Old 09-29-2015 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Is offline
Hahahahahh. That's funny. The 18 we were just awarded aren't even showing up till the end of next year, and United is scoped out until they add more aircraft.
The 700 and the 175 are the same plane in the eyes of their scope clause correct? (76 seats to 50) so if we lose 700's we do have the possibility of getting 175s to replace them.
Old 09-29-2015 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by IFLYPLANEZBRO
The 700 and the 175 are the same plane in the eyes of their scope clause correct? (76 seats to 50) so if we lose 700's we do have the possibility of getting 175s to replace them.
Yes, United is now scoped out on the amount of large RJs (70-76 seats) they can have, and the only way United can now add more E-175s is by reducing the amount of 70-seaters on a 1:1 swap.
Old 09-29-2015 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by NVUS
Yes, United is now scoped out on the amount of large RJs (70-76 seats) they can have, and the only way United can now add more E-175s is by reducing the amount of 70-seaters on a 1:1 swap.
Is the 175 that much more desirable than the -700? Seems like the -700 is the best, most versatile jet in the fleet.

That said I never have flown the 175.
Old 09-29-2015 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Is offline
I love how you make it sound like all of the regional pilots north of you on the senority list are just wasting their time because they are not already at a major.

You are not even done with training and you are 3700 on the list. You have at least 3 years before upgrade if everything continues in the regional world.

If this wonderful shrinkage comes to light that you speak of you might just find yourself stuck in the right side of an RJ for a very long time.

The word at United is the 40 700's up for United are not getting renewed. With those 40 aircraft your seniority went way south. Just a thought....
Is offline is correct. Lots of 700s going away. UA added 25 320s to the mainline fleet which start arriving next year. Ther is a reduction planned of up to 40% regional feed over the next 3 years as mainline absorbs flying back into the fold. Don't hold your breath for much in the way of additional flying. From here on its a downward path.
Old 09-29-2015 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Sorry to go back to this but I really need some clarification. You are saying that the only reason our reserve rules suck is because people don't like being on call and don't want to work?? AYFSM?? Our reserve rules are anything but basic. Our reserve rules suck because you can be on call at 4:00 in the morning, get a trip assigned starting at 10:00 AM and get extended past 16 hours duty day "because it's legal" You can get flown into another base for 5 days and rot in a hotel because it helps show better utilization numbers. You can get assigned to do ready reserve for 8 hours "just in case" You can get DH out to another base to do an hour and 20 minutes of flying with a 15 hour duty day because we don't know how to properly staff all our bases.

I don't mean to come at you, but this is the problem we have when there is a lot of hiring and people don't sit reserve for very long. And this is the reason that management can keep pushing off the reserve re-write. If we had reserve proffering, everyone's QOL would be so much better but we don't make it a priority. When we have our own pilots spewing the crap that AS and JO throw out, we will never see any gains.

In summary to the original question. Our reserve rules have went downhill because SGU is so afraid that we may pay someone 76 hours and they will only work 72. So SGU spends countless man hours in CS to bleed every minute out of our reserve pilots. It doesn't matter how demoralizing it is, because everyone needs to pay their dues.
Ok well first off I don't believe they can extend rap + 16 unless that was recently changed. And reserve is reserve man. If they put you up in a hotel in another base to be on reserve there they can do that. You are a back up pilot. Also I'm pretty sure the longest they can put you on ready is 4 hrs. It might have been 6? I remember guys in my crash pad working for transtates that had to do 12 hr ready reserve shifts. And they did it back to back days.

But yes I agree with you being on call is a huge hit on qol. Hence why I won't do corporate flying. But really there is no need to act like reserve at Skywest is THE WORST THING EVER. Cause it's not man.

There are definitely a few things they could change to make it better. Like call in senority order instead of jr to senior and give the senior guys the option of picking it up until everyone below him is used. That would be cool for if you are trying to break guarantee.

And proffering as you mentioned. Also set up required reserves based on something. That way the number doesn't change willy nilly. So that line holders can drop and trade more reliably.

How it is right now isn't horrible but yes it could be better for the pilots.
Old 09-29-2015 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cazadores
Is the 175 that much more desirable than the -700? Seems like the -700 is the best, most versatile jet in the fleet.

That said I never have flown the 175.
I'm assuming some of those 40 will be shifted towards replacing some of the 200s under the Delta and American contracts, but that's just speculation on my part.
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