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Old 03-16-2014 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by skiK2
Choose whichever is best for your situation. I agree with the others about reserve at either place. You'll hold a line much faster on the bro at SkyWest vs. Horizon.

I don't think you'll have a chance at either airline to upgrade, so take that into consideration.
Not chasing an upgrade. if it happens, great but really I want to live, not move around and chase the career. I think Horizon suits me better in that regard.

there's talk that down in MFR people are only reserve for a bid period or two at horizon, so that's not too bad.
Old 03-16-2014 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Not chasing an upgrade. if it happens, great but really I want to live, not move around and chase the career. I think Horizon suits me better in that regard.

there's talk that down in MFR people are only reserve for a bid period or two at horizon, so that's not too bad.
That's what a lot of pilots say when hired, but after several extra years of rotting in the right seat, you'll change your tune.

I've found that no matter even the most positive guys in this career tire of sitting in the right seat of a regional. Being grossly underpaid (in respects to the entire airline industry) for relatively the same job, will wear on anyone. Even the best people I know become bitter.
Old 03-16-2014 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by skiK2
That's what a lot of pilots say when hired, but after several extra years of rotting in the right seat, you'll change your tune.

I've found that no matter even the most positive guys in this career tire of sitting in the right seat of a regional. Being grossly underpaid (in respects to the entire airline industry) for relatively the same job, will wear on anyone. Even the best people I know become bitter.
that is true. I do worry about that in the future. But at the same time though (and this is assuming other higher up airlines are hiring) isn't leaving to go somewhere better paying an option?

It's hard to think of how I will react after being an FO for say 8 years or 10 years. 10 years ago I had given up my hope of being a pilot (thanks to my then terrible knowledge of how flying works in the USA)
Old 03-16-2014 | 10:41 AM
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I could be very wrong with the numbers but I heard horizon was losing twenty a month, if Skyw is losing the same amount, wouldn't horizon be more attractive with a smaller pilot group?
Time to a line can change in the blink of an eye from music stop to start and back again.
Old 03-16-2014 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 8ballfreight
I could be very wrong with the numbers but I heard horizon was losing twenty a month, if Skyw is losing the same amount, wouldn't horizon be more attractive with a smaller pilot group?
Time to a line can change in the blink of an eye from music stop to start and back again.
theoretically, sure that would make horizon more attractive but you have to think of where the attrition is. Is it senior FOs? great that'll get you up the FO ladder, is it senior CAs? that would be ideal since the senior CAs at horizon are what keep upgrade times insanely long (and I don't blame them, not here to criticize, I think everyone should do what is best for their situation). I have talked to one fella who can point out 7 people leaving in one week alone, so that can be a great thing!

I would venture to say, without any evidence, that it's senior FOs leaving. which is good in a way but doesn't mean upgrade times will get better. That said, I still think Horizon might be a better fit for me.
Old 03-16-2014 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
theoretically, sure that would make horizon more attractive but you have to think of where the attrition is. Is it senior FOs? great that'll get you up the FO ladder, is it senior CAs? that would be ideal since the senior CAs at horizon are what keep upgrade times insanely long (and I don't blame them, not here to criticize, I think everyone should do what is best for their situation). I have talked to one fella who can point out 7 people leaving in one week alone, so that can be a great thing!

I would venture to say, without any evidence, that it's senior FOs leaving. which is good in a way but doesn't mean upgrade times will get better. That said, I still think Horizon might be a better fit for me.
For SkyWest, it seems most of the movement is from the middle of the list, senior FOs and junior(ish) CAs.
Old 03-16-2014 | 03:02 PM
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Anyone else have any updates on the 100 vs. 50 Multi? Looks like on their website they are updated with the R-ATP mins and 50 Multi. I have heard they interview at 50 but you can't start training until 100. I know 100 has been a long time minimum for them but it just seems like it would be a big gap between interview and training for a CFI or MEI to get 50 multi.

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Old 03-18-2014 | 12:27 PM
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I'm curious- who thinks OO will be direct hiring in to E175? how long do you think it'll take? I say next spring?

PICTURE: Embraer rolls out United's first E175 - Airline Business
Old 03-18-2014 | 12:29 PM
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It will be sometime before they hire directly into the 175.
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I'm curious- who thinks OO will be direct hiring in to E175? how long do you think it'll take? I say next spring?

PICTURE: Embraer rolls out United's first E175 - Airline Business[/QUOTE]


Utah-based regional carrier SkyWest Airlines plans to take delivery of the aircraft during the week of 24 March with entry-into-service scheduled for a flight between Chicago O’Hare and Washington National on 17 May. Future service includes flights from Chicago to Atlanta, Boston, Minneapolis-St. Paul and New York LaGuardia. - See more at: PICTURE: Embraer rolls out United's first E175 - Airline Business
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