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05-19-2014 | 01:55 PM
#5101
Rollin'
Joined: Sep 2008
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From: AA Airbus
Yes, please explain how I screwed myself...
Same bid as the past 5 months, every month has come out vastly different.
I don't bid hardly anything restrictive.
1: CDOs; 5h+ cdt/dp
2: locals, 2 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; 12hrs off between pairings
3: 3 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; try to finish at this layer; waive min cdt.; 12hrs off between pairings
4: 4 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; waive min cdt.; 12hrs off between pairings
5: CDOs, locals, 2 days (no restrictions)
6: 3days, 4 days (no restrictions)
7: no restrictions...
also, by layer 5 I had 75% of all trips fit. By layer 4, 60%.
I bid 55%, so by no stretch should I have gotten PN trips all over my schedule.
Especially since I only bid by trip length and credit, with no other pairing properties selected.
I'm awfully curious how I restricted PBS' too much, or how the simple system was too much for my lack of common sense or brain.
That's it. Now tell me Mr. Expert, how I F'd myself. Considering this is the same bid I've used for months, and can't get a single month to look similar to another. I haven't seen a PN in a year on my schedule. And only one or 2 CNs in the past year. Now the opposite.
I've been bidding with this POS PBS software for 3 years, and only 2x have I gotten such a POS schedule. One month, everyone was getting hosed.
This month, as you assert, I screwed myself...
Same bid as the past 5 months, every month has come out vastly different.
I don't bid hardly anything restrictive.
1: CDOs; 5h+ cdt/dp
2: locals, 2 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; 12hrs off between pairings
3: 3 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; try to finish at this layer; waive min cdt.; 12hrs off between pairings
4: 4 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; waive min cdt.; 12hrs off between pairings
5: CDOs, locals, 2 days (no restrictions)
6: 3days, 4 days (no restrictions)
7: no restrictions...
also, by layer 5 I had 75% of all trips fit. By layer 4, 60%.
I bid 55%, so by no stretch should I have gotten PN trips all over my schedule.
Especially since I only bid by trip length and credit, with no other pairing properties selected.
I'm awfully curious how I restricted PBS' too much, or how the simple system was too much for my lack of common sense or brain.
That's it. Now tell me Mr. Expert, how I F'd myself. Considering this is the same bid I've used for months, and can't get a single month to look similar to another. I haven't seen a PN in a year on my schedule. And only one or 2 CNs in the past year. Now the opposite.
I've been bidding with this POS PBS software for 3 years, and only 2x have I gotten such a POS schedule. One month, everyone was getting hosed.
This month, as you assert, I screwed myself...
There is a possibility PBS made an error on a more senior pilots award creating an error in the pairings available to you in your pairing pool but you should still have been able to complete your solution without any PNs. Again, PNs mean you made the error. Without reading your “reason report” I’m thinking what happened is PBS could not create a solution with the pairing pool available to you by layer 3. You bid "try to finish by the layer" but only in layer 3, since your line wasn’t full of P/L1-3s it means it could not create a solution from the pairings that were available to you in those layers. So the computer retained what it awarded you in layers 1-3 but those pairings restricted PBS in later layers from creating a solution with what remained. In order words, for June, you were unable to hold a line full of what you're bidding for in layers 1-3 and those pairings conflicted with what you could hold in the following layers. In order to relax this restriction you need to bid “try to finish by this layer” in other layers as well as adjust your approach a bit.
If I could see your complete award with the reason report I could paint a clear picture but I’m certain this is what happened. You were somewhat stabbing at a line without understanding how the layers work together as they moved from start to completion of a solution.
Last edited by MatchPoint; 05-19-2014 at 02:05 PM.
05-19-2014 | 02:07 PM
#5102
Rollin'
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 829
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From: AA Airbus
I only have 8 days left at SkyWest until I resign my seat (congrats, you get to move up another number
) so you'll need to find another expert to assist you with next months bid.
) so you'll need to find another expert to assist you with next months bid.
05-19-2014 | 02:47 PM
#5104
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 178
Likes: 0
Yes, please explain how I screwed myself...
Same bid as the past 5 months, every month has come out vastly different.
I don't bid hardly anything restrictive.
1: CDOs; 5h+ cdt/dp
2: locals, 2 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; 12hrs off between pairings
3: 3 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; try to finish at this layer; waive min cdt.; 12hrs off between pairings
4: 4 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; waive min cdt.; 12hrs off between pairings
5: CDOs, locals, 2 days (no restrictions)
6: 3days, 4 days (no restrictions)
7: no restrictions...
Also, by layer 4, 60%, and layer 5, 75% of all trips fit.
I bid 55%, so by no stretch should I have gotten PN trips all over my schedule.
And the PNs happen after the last layer awarded trip, which was a P5, so it had nothing to do with the layer 3 "try to finish"
Since I only bid by trip length and credit, with no other pairing properties selected. (no weekends off, trip mix, commutable blocks, days, nights, etc. None of that AT ALL)
So, I'm awfully curious how I restricted PBS' too much, or how the simple system was just too much for my lack of common sense or brain to handle.
Now tell me Mr. Expert, how I F'd myself.
Considering this is the same bid I've used for months, and can't get a single month to look similar to another. I haven't seen a PN in a year on my schedule. And only one or 2 CNs in the past year. Now the opposite.
I've been bidding with this POS PBS software for 3 years, and only 2x have I gotten such a POS schedule. One month, everyone was getting hosed. This month, as you assert, I screwed myself...
Same bid as the past 5 months, every month has come out vastly different.
I don't bid hardly anything restrictive.
1: CDOs; 5h+ cdt/dp
2: locals, 2 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; 12hrs off between pairings
3: 3 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; try to finish at this layer; waive min cdt.; 12hrs off between pairings
4: 4 days; 5h+ cdt/dp; waive min cdt.; 12hrs off between pairings
5: CDOs, locals, 2 days (no restrictions)
6: 3days, 4 days (no restrictions)
7: no restrictions...
Also, by layer 4, 60%, and layer 5, 75% of all trips fit.
I bid 55%, so by no stretch should I have gotten PN trips all over my schedule.
And the PNs happen after the last layer awarded trip, which was a P5, so it had nothing to do with the layer 3 "try to finish"
Since I only bid by trip length and credit, with no other pairing properties selected. (no weekends off, trip mix, commutable blocks, days, nights, etc. None of that AT ALL)
So, I'm awfully curious how I restricted PBS' too much, or how the simple system was just too much for my lack of common sense or brain to handle.
Now tell me Mr. Expert, how I F'd myself.
Considering this is the same bid I've used for months, and can't get a single month to look similar to another. I haven't seen a PN in a year on my schedule. And only one or 2 CNs in the past year. Now the opposite.
I've been bidding with this POS PBS software for 3 years, and only 2x have I gotten such a POS schedule. One month, everyone was getting hosed. This month, as you assert, I screwed myself...
05-19-2014 | 02:47 PM
#5105
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,960
Likes: 110
I call dibs on Matchpoint's help when Airways adopts Skywest's PBS!
05-19-2014 | 03:44 PM
#5106
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 632
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From: RJ right-seat warmer
Does anybody know the June and July class dates for Skywest at the moment? I believe one is set for Aug 25. I'm scheduled for September but hoping to be able to get out of my current obligation earlier and attend an earlier class. Rather than bother the recruiters, I just wanted to know if anyone knows the June/July dates.
Thanks!
Thanks!
05-19-2014 | 03:50 PM
#5108
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 632
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From: RJ right-seat warmer
05-19-2014 | 04:44 PM
#5110
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 632
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From: RJ right-seat warmer
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